<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>Within the ICANN ecosystem, the assumed authority as I understand it, is well distributed throughout the entirety of the system, groups form rough consensus, may propose new rules and ideas, and rules are implemented based on the general agreement of participants, and then moved on to the next level for a vote. At any given time of measurement, some ICANN members chose not to participate at all with the assumed authority of the overall ICANN structure, and for those that do participate, 65% are obedient to the overall process at any given time of such measurement, and 35% disagree with the overall process. <br /><br />What makes ICANN work well as an organization, as I understand it, is the ability of all members to propose ideas, definitions and initiatives for comsideration, and the various checks and balances such as the Ombudsman, Budgeting proposals and other internal and
external regulatory protocols should cause the overall process to become more efficient with time, as long as, in my opinion, the assumed authority of the system is shared in various degrees throughout the ICANN system, and never consolidates into the hands of an "oligarchy", historically by definition only interested in the "continuance of its assumed authority" and not, traditionally, in any progress of the overall system to solve problems, therefore no longer performing a civil function for civil society.<br /><br />Ronald Baione-Doda<br />NY</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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<td valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top"><div>A "Civil Society" is any set or subset of people within the physical boundaries of the assumed authority of that set or subset of people, where an unpredictable percentage of people in the group chose to either participate in being tangibly affected by the assumed authority of the group or not be tangibly affected by the assumed authority of the group, and, given Milgram's Law, 65% of any participants who chose to be tangibly affected by the assumed authority will be obedient to the assumed authority, and 35% of the people in the group who chose to be tangibly affected by the assumed authority will not be obedient to the assumed authority. As stated, there are those people in the group defined as any "Civil Society" who chose not to interact at all with the assumed authority
of a group, but whom still exist within the boundaries of the assumed authority,therefore they are part
of the group that defines a "Civil Society" as well.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ronald Baione-Doda<br clear="none">NY</div></td></tr></table> <div class="yqt4443949074" id="yqt21631"><div id="_origMsg_">
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top"><br clear="none">[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Subject: Re:????? Q = utf-8 OPINION B3n_sobre_componentes_de_la __ = C3 = = = utf-8 Sociedad_Civil q =? <br clear="none"> From: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">vanda@scartezini.org</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Dear <br clear="none"> You can start with definitions: there are many already see what we achieved in our region. <br clear="none"> Here mine definition: <br clear="none"> Civil society is dentre any kind of formal organization of a population that is not public, is not a military or religious. So aí any type of company (limited partnership or corporation) General em, nongovernmental organizations, foundations, cooperatives and other formal organization fall. <br clear="none"> On the other hand usually em physical persons do
not fall under this definition. <br clear="none"> Los Ralos, in my opinion, and the ALS are part of civil society. Members of the ALS, as individuals are not. <br clear="none"> Natural persons
or individuals are simple member of the Society.<br clear="none"> Thus the Company is the people of a region is not relevant the size of the region sob consideration or as individual in this society is organized. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> This is what I think. Let's hear others with their understandings of what they mean for Civil Society <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Vanda Scartezini <br clear="none"> Polo Consultores Associados <br clear="none"> Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj <br clear="none"> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil <br clear="none"> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 <br clear="none"> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 <br clear="none"> Sorry for any typos. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> From: &quot;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lac-discuss-es-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
&quot;On Behalf Of Alberto Soto <br clear="none"> Date: Friday, October 2, 2015 at 21:39 <br clear="none"> To:
&quot;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> &quot; <br clear="none"> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Comments about components of the Civil Society <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Dear, in several working groups of different levels, it is discussing who make up civil society. <br clear="none"> I am interested in the opinion of LACRALO, particularly comparing the current structure of ICANN ecosystem.<br clear="none"> For this I suggest you see within that ecosystem, or IANA after the transition is complete, which will we represent the end users. <br clear="none"> Consider that this is a proposed amendment to existing policies or launch a new policy. <br clear="none"> I have several meetings regularly, and do not want to give my personal opinion without consulting them. <br clear="none"> As President of
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should take the views of our region. <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Best regards <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Alberto Soto <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> ________________________________ <br clear="none"> [Avast logo] &lt; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a>> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Avast antivirus software scanned this email for viruses. <br clear="none"> www.avast.com &lt; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a>> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">[[--Original text (es)<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank"
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