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Dear Alejandro,<br>
<br>
thanks for this. Since we're having increased transparency, I'll
also increase understanding and respond to your concerns. You say:<br>
"I find the draft lacking in understanding the necessary tensions in
the non-commercial space, and in not making an analysis of the
effects of increasing structural complexity on the GNSO in general."<br>
<br>
Quoting from the ALAC Statement:<br>
<br>
<font color="#3333ff"><i>"Whilst the ALAC support almost all of the
recommendations made in the Westlake Report, the ALAC is
concerned that the vast majority of the recommendations focus on
GNSO Working Groups and suggest making small adjustments rather
than taking a serious look at the GNSO’s bicameral structure.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>Indeed, the Westlake Report, in reviewing the BGC’s
recommendations from the first GNSO Review comes to a conclusion
which the ALAC finds hasty and poorly researched:</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>"BGC Recommendations 10 and 11. (Restructure Council
membership and councillor term limits)</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>Observations</i><i><br>
</i><i>The Council was restructured following the BGC
recommendations. Term limits were introduced at the same time.
The Council appears functional. It is constructed to balance the
various interests.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>Analysis</i><i><br>
</i><i>The current structure has been implemented relatively
recently. It is not broken, and we do not recommend any change
at this time."</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>The ALAC is surprised with this Analysis.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>Numerous areas need to be reviewed and below includes a few
examples:</i><i><br>
</i><i>• The current structure of the GNSO Council provides the
ability for a more united vote in the Contracted Parties House
whilst fragmenting the Non-Contracted Parties house to the point
of imbalance. </i><i><br>
</i><i>• In contract, the unprecedented growth of Contracted
Parties caused by the new gTLD Program has not been addressed.
What might have been a homogeneous Stakeholder Group might now
be more heterogeneous and the potential consequences of this
change have not been studied. For example, City TLDs are an
entirely new breed of registry; so are Brand TLDs. How does this
affect the current status quo? How would city administrators,
businesses, and people using City TLDs have their voice heard in
GNSO processes? </i><i><br>
</i><i>• What would be the consequence of adding more
stakeholders/constituencies in either Contracted Party House or
Non-Contracted Party House? The ALAC notes that there are strong
indications that none of the stakeholders within the
Non-Contracted Party House seem to want new group.</i><i><br>
</i><i>• Other commenters in the At-Large Community have noted
that the proposals for more geographically balanced
representation appeared to be focused on finding new
participants from outside the GNSO’s usual territory. A question
to ask is how many gTLD registries and gTLDs are domiciled both
legally and operationally in each of the ICANN regions both
before and after the recent expansion of gTLD space under the
GNSO's auspices. The Westlake Review misses on the opportunity
to potentially reveal a hidden pattern that the ICANN GNSO is
self-reinforcing the domain name business geopolitically.
Westlake’s observation that the GNSO’s constituencies
concentrate in North America and Europe may underpin such hidden
pattern.</i><i><br>
</i><i>• GNSO Working Groups are open for all participants
including non-GNSO Constituency members, but the GNSO Council,
thanks to its very structure, has the ability to affect a
Working Group’s results. Voting is one of the ways to support or
halt recommendations from a bottom-up PDP.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>The ALAC believes that the complex issues of GNSO structure
and processes need to be studied now. The ALAC reminds the
Reviewers of the At-Large Future Challenges Working Group R3
White Paper
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-01oct12-en.htm">http://www.atlarge.icann.org/correspondence/correspondence-01oct12-en.htm</a>)
drafted in 2012 and containing proposals that should be
explored.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>Several ALAC members recall that during the first GNSO
Review, it was understood that Constituencies and the creation
of “Stakeholder Groups” were going to be reviewed at the next
iteration. Tragically, this is missing from the current report.</i><i><br>
</i><i><br>
</i><i>To be clear, the ALAC is disappointed that the review has
not evaluated to what extent the current GNSO Structure meets
the GNSO and ICANN needs. The structure, with contracted parties
representing half of the Council voting power, was invented as a
result of the last GNSO review, prior to the New gTLD Program
and before registries could own registrars. The ALAC is very
concerned that the current structure may not be able to
adequately address issues where the public interest is in
conflict with the interests of contracted parties. This is
essential in light of:</i><i><br>
</i><i>• ICANN's increased focus on the Public Interest;</i><i><br>
</i><i>• the increased desire and need to be demonstrably
accountable; and</i><i><br>
</i><i>• the recommendations of the Policy and Implementation WG
which will require ALL policy issues to go back to the GNSO for
resolution instead of being addressed at the Board level where
Board members have a duty to balance stakeholder desires vs the
Public Interest."</i></font><br>
<br>
--- end of quote ---<br>
<br>
I really do not believe it is for the ALAC to make an analysis of
the effects of increasing structural complexity on the GNSO in
general. ICANN is paying a consultant a lot of money and the ALAC
Statement says that it is the consultant that should do this job.<br>
<br>
As for "understanding the necessary tensions in the non-commercial
space", I am unsure as to what you are referring to and would
appreciate help here. The ALAC Statement is alleging the Contracted
House is more stable than the Non-Contracted House. It hasn't got to
do with commercial or non-commercial space. If I have missed
something, please explain, so we can point to it in the future.
(it's too late for this Statement now)<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/08/2015 23:58, Dr. Alejandro
Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm speaking about the ALAC draft.</div>
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<div>But look, something good has happened: at least one ALAC
member has spoken out explaining her position. Transparency
welcome.</div>
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<div>Yours,</div>
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<div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 03 de agosto de 2015 16:53<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch;
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<b>CC:</b> Vanda Scartezini<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [lac-discuss-en] FW: VOTE
ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the Draft Report: Review
of the Generic Names Supporting Organization<br>
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<div>Dear Alejandro,<br>
<br>
thanks for your kind note. Which draft are you speaking
about? The Westlake draft or the ALAC Statement draft?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
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<div>I find the draft lacking in understanding the
necessary tensions in the non-commercial space, and
in not making an analysis of the effects of
increasing structural complexity on the GNSO in
general. </div>
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</div>
<div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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08:43<br>
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<b>CC:</b> Vanda Scartezini<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [lac-discuss-en] FW: VOTE
ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the Draft
Report: Review of the Generic Names Supporting
Organization<br>
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<div>Hello all,<br>
<br>
let me make this quite clear from the outset:
ALAC members are asked to vote on the Statement,
not on the GNSO Review Report. The ALAC
Statement mentions the points it agrees with in
the GNSO Review report. It mentions the points
it does not agree with and is pretty strong on
criticising the Consultants about the fact it
completely missed the opportunity to evaluate
the GNSO Structure. The ALAC response is pretty
clear about that.<br>
The call for comments was made on 15 July. The
only ALAC member from LAC that commented was
Vanda and her views were taken into account. The
only other LACRALO member that commented was
Carlton Samuels and his views were also taken
into account.<br>
<br>
In formulating the ALAC response, I
unfortunately received no other input from
LACRALO members, despite requests for feedback.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: FW: VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: ALAC Statement on the Draft Report: Review of the Generic Names Supporting Organization
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Vanda: if you say &quot;I intend to vote in Please though I personally believe, and HAD Such statement made, That the review itself was really weak and did not touch Relevant several points.&quot;
It sounds contradictory and the vote should be against?
Carlos Vera Quintana
0988141143
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I intend to vote in favor though I personally believe, and had made such statement, that the review itself was really weak and did not touch several relevant points.
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