<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">Alejandro:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">Message received at last! Communication is a helluva thing, isn't it? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">Happy you got the message. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">I assume you are being pious about my use of the word 'bullshit', no? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">If so, don't waste the man's time. Its the meaning intended that matters. Which is why I deliberately 'cut and pasted' the dictionary meaning straight from source for my original message. Here it is again:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><div class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><div class="" style="display:inline-block;font-size:16px;padding:6px 8px"><i><b><font color="#000000">Definitions of</font><font color="#777777"> </font><span class="" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);direction:ltr">bullshit</span></b></i></div><div class="" style="color:rgb(119,119,119);float:right"></div></div><div class="" style="padding:0px 8px;color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><div class=""><i><b>noun</b></i></div><div class="" style="margin-left:34px;margin-right:20px;direction:ltr"><div class="" style="margin-bottom:12px"><div class="" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><i><b>stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.</b></i></div></div></div><div class=""><i><b>verb</b></i></div><div class="" style="margin-left:34px;margin-right:20px;direction:ltr"><div class="" style="margin-bottom:12px"><div class="" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><i><b>talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.</b></i></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">Two steps ahead of you here. You should know by now the English language is my friend. Unfortunately, I cannot speak for Spanish.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">Closeout: So you know where I stand, please refer the private message I sent to you on another such allegation a couple years ago.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">Kindest regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large">-Carlton</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div>==============================<br>Carlton A Samuels<br>Mobile: <a href="tel:876-818-1799" value="+18768181799" target="_blank">876-818-1799</a><br><i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i><br>=============================</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:53 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><br>
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Subject: Re:??????? = Utf-8 q = C2 = C3 = = BFEs_ 27irregul A9ste_Tiresome_ = = = utf-8 q = 27_Contra_Large_At-Staff arity =<br>
</span> From: <a href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a><br>
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Carlton,<br>
<br>
<br>
I'll accept your last use of offensive language. Your next<br>
message with offensive language will be the subject of work of the Ombudsman. Your<br>
It leads to unacceptable vocabulary words in Spanish.<br>
<br>
<br>
The conflict of interest is not Lance your business<br>
own. The conflict lies in its business representation through<br>
Camera. Some of these businesses are structural conflcto with<br>
users because users are customers of their services.<br>
<br>
<br>
Jacqueline, the expression of interest was modified and expanded after<br>
start the election.<br>
<br>
<br>
Alejandro Pisanty<br>
<span><br>
<br>
On Thu, July 23, 2015 at 4:46 PM, <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]<br>
><br>
> Asunto: Re: ¿Es éste Tiresome 'irregularidad' Contra Large At-Staff<br>
</span>> De: <a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
> Mi amigo Alejando, voy a irritar un poco más con la retórica. Y<br>
> no por favor, acepto que estoy utilizando el sentido clásico [Inglés] de<br>
> la palabra.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Lo que se alega es puramente desafortunado mierda.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Lanza Hinds se articula a la ICANN a través de un memorando de<br>
> entendimiento con la ICANN y caucus con<br>
> At-Large y LACRALO como representante de DevNet; él es el Presidente<br>
> y su representante para LACRALO.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Devnet es una organización no gubernamental que provee desarrollo de las<br>
> TIC<br>
> servicios a los que están en el lado pobre de la brecha digital. DevNet<br>
> thusly representa los intereses de los usuarios finales. Piense en Devnet<br>
> como la versión de Guyana<br>
> Internauta usarios etc etc.<br>
><br>
><br>
> El hombre es el presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown en<br>
> virtud de su<br>
> propiedad de una pequeña empresa; Tecnologías BrainStreet. Él deriva su<br>
> ingresos, su salario digno, principalmente de ese negocio.Él no consigue<br>
> pagado como Presidente de la Cámara de Comercio de Georgetown.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Aquí está el problema. No es inusual para los que estamos en el Caribe<br>
> tener muchas vidas; Su llamado responder al déficit de capacidad. decir<br>
> eso<br>
> Lanza no puede ser un hombre de negocios y también representan los<br>
> intereses del usuario final cuando<br>
> él es presidente de una ONG - el que a través de la que ha conectado a la<br>
> ICANN<br>
> sistema - sólo se parece delirante para algunos de nosotros.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Al menos para aquellos de nosotros en el Caribe que son voluntarios para<br>
> una cosa<br>
> u otro.<br>
><br>
><br>
> -Carlton<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ==============================<br>
> Carlton Un Samuels<br>
> Móvil: <a href="tel:876-818-1799" value="+18768181799" target="_blank">876-818-1799</a><br>
> * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega *<br>
> =============================<br>
><br>
><br>
> El Jue, 23 de julio 2015 a las 4:20 de la tarde, el Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>
<div><div>> Baruch &lt;<br>
> <a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx" target="_blank">apisan@unam.mx</a>&gt; escribió:<br>
><br>
><br>
> > Carlton,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The issue is very simple. A number of us find an irreconcilable conflict<br>
> > of interest in Lance Hinds's SoI. This is apparent only once the election<br>
> > was in course.<br>
> ><br>
> > Simple. No rhetoric needed.<br>
> ><br>
> > Alejandro Pisanty<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
> > Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>
> > Facultad de QuÃmica UNAM<br>
> > Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="tel:%2B52-1-5541444475" value="+5215541444475" target="_blank">+52-1-5541444475</a> FROM ABROAD<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="tel:%2B525541444475" value="+525541444475" target="_blank">+525541444475</a> DESDE MÉXICO SMS <a href="tel:%2B525541444475" value="+525541444475" target="_blank">+525541444475</a><br>
> > Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>
> > LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>
> > Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,<br>
> > <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>
> > Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>
> > ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>
> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>
> > ------------------------------<br>
> > *Desde:* <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [<br>
> > <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] en nombre de Carlton<br>
> > Samuels [<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>]<br>
> > *Enviado el:* jueves, 23 de julio de 2015 16:03<br>
> > *Hasta:* <a href="mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>
> > *CC:* Albert Daniels<br>
> > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] This Tiresome 'Irregularity' Claim Against<br>
> > At-Large Staff<br>
> ><br>
> > I am trying to live a long and useful life. Engagement with LACRALO is<br>
> > debilitating.<br>
> ><br>
> > I am not communicant - I gave it up since I was 14 years old - so cannot<br>
> > depend on a 'good' God for my salvation. So for objective, I do what I<br>
> must<br>
> > by avoiding vexations to my spirit.<br>
> ><br>
> > But the bullshit - I hope the word translates well to Spanish - is just<br>
> > too much and I must break my silence.<br>
> ><br>
> > In case the translation gets mangled, here is what I mean by bullshit:<br>
> ><br>
> > Definitions of bullshit<br>
> > noun<br>
> > stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.<br>
> > verb<br>
> > talk nonsense to (someone), typically to be misleading or deceptive.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ​It is misleading, even dishonest, to allege misconduct by At-Large<br>
> > staff in this instance and I will tell you why.<br>
> ><br>
> > Jacqueline has already pithily outlined the classic case but I will<br>
> > repeat it here for effect.<br>
> ><br>
> > In parts of the world where rules for [s]elections are established and<br>
> > where this exercise of democracy is routine, a candidate satisfying all<br>
> > other criteria and nominated for a position unopposed is duly<br>
> [s]elected. ​<br>
> ><br>
> > But this is LACRALO where our collective understanding of the process<br>
> > is, well, let me be generous and say uneven, at best.<br>
> ><br>
> > We simply don't understand that you cannot disavow or subvert the<br>
> > nomination portion of the process without calling the entire [s]election<br>
> > process into question.<br>
> ><br>
> > So, we walk extra miles to give those who don't understand time to come<br>
> > along, slowly. That is the basis for the consensus poll - notice it is a<br>
> > poll - and why we in the Caribbean bothered to go along with that in the<br>
> > first place!<br>
> ><br>
> > As At-Large staff would have told all of you, this is not the same for<br>
> > other RALOs. They have matured in both thought and action.<br>
> ><br>
> > Why does this bother me, you ask? Because it gets old and tiresome after<br>
> > trying for so long. And since it vexes my spirit, I run the real risk of<br>
> > reducing my life and its quality the longer I caucus here.<br>
> ><br>
> > Now, to the hypocrites. I ask your forgiveness for not being a good<br>
> > Christian. I simply detest hypocrisy.<br>
> ><br>
> > In the selection for a NomCom candidate this year, our esteemed<br>
> > colleague from Brazil and incumbent, Sylvia Leite Herlein, was nominated<br>
> > unopposed. I enthusiastically supported her candidacy, not just only for<br>
> > the fact she had performed in the post. But I truly believe that a single<br>
> > 1-year term does not give the region the benefit of her service and<br>
> > expertise nor allow the region to build the influence we need in very<br>
> > important ICANN councils.<br>
> ><br>
> > I personally discouraged - yes, discouraged - other nominations to muddy<br>
> > the path to her re-selection. We went along with Jacqueline Morris being<br>
> > de-selected after a single year. Maybe that was the wrong thing to do<br>
> then.<br>
> ><br>
> > With Sylvia's unopposed [s]election, no consensus poll took place. And<br>
> > the At-Large staff notified the world in the same way as they did for<br>
> Lance<br>
> > Hinds.<br>
> ><br>
> > It was not that we in the Caribbean did not notice. Rather, it is<br>
> > because we have never felt any such poll was necessary in the first<br>
> place.<br>
> ><br>
> > Contrast then to now. There was not a whimper of complaint from our now<br>
> > erstwhile friends of LACRALO propriety, not one allegation of<br>
> 'impropriety'<br>
> > raised!<br>
> ><br>
> > So now, I ask you, what is the difference here? We can either assume the<br>
> > guardians of LACRALO propriety were off busily thumb-sucking, even asleep<br>
> > at the switch.<br>
> ><br>
> > Or, in this case for Lance Hinds nomination and selection, other<br>
> > operating conditions are applied.<br>
> ><br>
> > Go figure.<br>
> ><br>
> > -Carlton Samuels<br>
> ><br>
> > ==============================<br>
> > Carlton A Samuels<br>
> > Mobile: <a href="tel:876-818-1799" value="+18768181799" target="_blank">876-818-1799</a><br>
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*<br>
> > =============================<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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