[lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Reunión Mensual LACRALO Mayo 2020
alberto at soto.net.ar
alberto at soto.net.ar
Fri May 15 15:10:00 UTC 2020
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I partially transcribe the Lacralo Metrics voted by our Region:
"ACTIVE PARTICIPATION
The participation and intervention criteria (indicators) will be aimed at:
- Meetings (virtual and face-to-face)
- Participation in working groups at all levels (LACRALO, ALAC, ICANN)
- Participation in mailing lists.
- Participation in local or regional events, with specific content on the subject included in the MOU signed with ICANN.
Until another form is defined, the LACRALO presidency and Secretariat will be responsible for preparing the Participation Tables. ”
Sergio, I have long requested information on two topics: Metrics and Monthly Secretary Reports. They never answered me until the meeting you mention. The last Secretary Reports is from February 2018. It is the only Ralo that has no history since that date.
The approved Metrics were to encourage the participation of our ALSs and that those who access the positions have real knowledge of our Region having actively participated.
I believe that the people of good thought in our Ralo cannot deny my contribution and broad participation to permanently improve all activity and participation in our Region and project it in the participation of policies in ALAC and the rest of the AC and SO.
For this reason, I consider that pointing out shortcomings is a way of collaborating and that everything is done according to the rules.
Without insults and with a constructive spirit. As Vanda says, you had and still have the tools to act correctly.
Best regards,
Alberto Soto
From: Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2020, 11:49
To: Alberto soto <Alberto at soto.net.ar>
CC: Harold Arcos <harold.arcos at gmail.com> , LACRALO Spanish <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LACRALO Monthly Meeting May 2020
Alberto, I often wonder what you are looking for in each of your interventions and I always come to the same concussion: muddy the clear water.
As I said in the last meeting in which I think you were present (if you were, I wonder why you did not say anything at the time) the information we have at the moment is insufficient to apply that rule you refer to and would generate unfair action instead fair for our region partners.
LACRALO's leadership is not there to persecute and punish as it seems that you like to act, you must leave behind the dictatorial remnants that may have remained culturally in our darkest customs and move towards more democratic and broad places of participation.
Each one of these things that try to limit participation in the region produces going to the past and not taking a step towards the future.
Instead of worrying about such tribal issues, I invite you to participate in a working group within LACRALO so that you can contribute something positive. Negative contributions must be left at home, well hidden so as not to be embarrassed.
I have prepared as I anticipated a meeting of the LACRALO governance working group to deal with this particular issue, this will be immediately after the approval of the procedural rules of our region.
Without further greeting,
Thu, May 14, 2020 11:21 PM, Alberto soto <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:
Dear Harold, many months ago I have asked about the application of the already approved LACRALO Metrics for the next elections. And this is the first response I received, unfortunately. And it is not satisfactory.
Our approved Metrics established that the ALSs that nominate their members for any position, must meet the requirements of those Metrics. And the people in charge of preparing these attendances to monthly meetings, webinars and integration to the working groups were the President and Secretary of our Ralo. If they did not do so, there is a breach of their duties.
And what the WG does now to modify the previously approved, cannot modify the requirements of the candidates for the next elections. Otherwise, they would be being carried out without fulfilling the main requirement that our Ralo approved for elective offices: active participation.
I hope your answer doesn't last for months.
Cheers
Alberto Soto
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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:13 PM -0300, "Harold Arcos" <harold.arcos at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Alberto, sorry in advance,
On the application of the metrics for this nomination event, during our April monthly meeting Sergio requested an ad-hoc call for the governance group to be part of the adaptation of our metrics. This in order not to risk being unfair in the measurement since the collection and verification of some key data is not entirely guaranteed.
The following three steps that we detected during the implementation process were:
* Data Collection Criteria - Staff + Lacralo. It involves seeking to automate collection, as I discussed in my report.
* Governance Group.
* Evolution of the Metric System.
During this phase I am sure that we will have your advice again for being one of the original editors.
I am at your service.
Harold
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 3:57 PM Alberto soto <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:
Harold, as I still haven't received an answer, I ask. Would my application be included in that meeting?
Thank you
Alberto Soto
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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:01 PM -0300, "Harold Arcos" <harold.arcos at gmail.com> wrote:
Alejandro, a pleasure to serve.
From Lacralo's secretariat we will write down your manifestation of inclusion until the process of comments and consensus for the document in question concludes, then we will proceed. I share the opinion that it is very important that from now on there be initiative for the organizing process. Congratulations!
Thank you for your input on the topic and recommendation on Dave Piscitello's posts. From now on we will incorporate the first ideas into Monday's report.
Cheers
Harold
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 1:50 PM Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:
Harold,
thanks for the invitation. I applaud the return to the "policy" points identified as being of importance to users in the region.
I take this opportunity to state that I see well the proposed rules for the participation of individual users and I will join it. I consider it important to consider some of these participants from this very moment to build the ALS proposal.
On the subject of DNS Abuse, it would be very advisable for ALSs to consult with their members and experts in their environment about the difficulties encountered by those who are affected by or who fight DNS abuses, in matters such as fraud, phishing, false merchandise , intellectual property, etc. Those I know complain very publicly about the barriers to access to information they find in the "whois" rules and other protections for personal information, tightened by the European GDPR. So this discussion of DNS abuse also leads to a reflection on the broader issue of domain name registrant protection. Dave Piscitello's publications give a very good example of this.
Alexander Pisanty
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Harold Arcos <harold.arcos at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Region
We share the proposed agenda for our next regional monthly meeting. As you can see, the central theme of the regional webinar program will be the General Operation and Resilience of the DNS Domain Name System.
Diary:
https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/2020-05-18+LACRALO+Monthly+Teleconference
Based on the contributions and suggestions from the region, we take this opportunity to start a dynamic in which we can converse, exchange, debate and share points of view on the substantial issues that are under discussion, such as DNS Abuse. It has been a historical necessity that we have expressed in various measures in the region.
The exchange space seeks to initiate a regional debate that enriches both new and active members. A record will be kept and after the Monthly Meeting it will be continued through the mailing list to finally assess whether it is pertinent or necessary to prepare a regional pronouncement towards Alac.
We share some links related to DNS;
> ICANN Org’s Multifaceted Response to DNS Abuse https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-org-s-multifaceted-response-to-dns-abuse
> Domain Abuse Activity Reporting https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar
> Domain Abuse Activity Reporting (DAAR)SystemReport on data from 31 March 2020 https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/daar-monthly-report-31mar20-en.pdf
Please share all the materials and links you want about DNS in this same email thread.
Cheers
Sergio Salinas Porto - President LACRALO
Harold Arcos - LACRALO Secretariat
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