[lac-discuss-en] Elecciones LACRALO

Mon Jun 3 23:36:51 UTC 2019

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Subject:Re:  Elecciones LACRALO
Desde:Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>

Alberto,

if there are no conditions that allow the Presidency to clarify which rules to apply and have to consult the community,
What rules apply to the query? that is to say,
we must answer the question "
Is voting or consensus obtained? "with a vote or with a consensus? This leads us to infinite recursion, which many of us have seen in student assemblies and other less mature spaces.

There is no choice but the one you propose: start once again a consultation to the legal area of ICANN, which is a step back - and although as we say in Mexico (and other countries) "back or to gain momentum", here It seems indispensable.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:47 PM <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:

As stated in the WG, any modification to our standards requires a vote.
>From what I see, and as I said when I received this proposal, it was not feasible to implement it, since the new Rules of Procedures are not there.
We have only managed to delay the votes (the only RALO that has pending voting) and complicate the decisions that require a deeper analysis.
The rotation proposal was not analyzed by the governance WG, but only by a small pate of it.
Someone says that the operating principles are valid, and another group says no. It is the first thing that must be resolved before making another decision.
I filed a motion to send the query to ICANN's Legal Department, but it was not taken into account yet.
regards

Alberto Soto

From: Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> Posted on: Monday, June 03, 2019 03:18 pm To: Cristian Hernan Casas <cristiancasas at hotmail.com> CC: Alberto Soto <alberto at soto.net.ar> ; At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org> ; LACRALO Spanish <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LACRALO Elections

Dear, I have a question, do you understand that we must define this in the region by consensus or by vote?
Sergio Salinas PortoPresident Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANNA Argentina Association of Internet Users / FeTIAFUILAC- LACfacebook Internet Users Federation: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinasMobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano

Mon., Jun. 3 2019 at 13:31, Cristian Casas ( <cristiancasas at hotmail.com> ) wrote:

Understood Sergio.

Mon., Jun. 3 of 2019 12:59, Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> wrote:

This is Alberto, this is only for this election, the rotation system will be defined in the New Rules of Procedure.
Sorry if it is not clear in the paragraph of my email that I indicate below: "... the definitive method of rotation of charges will be put in writing in our new rules of procedure ...."
Hug
Sergio Salinas PortoPresident Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANNA Argentina Association of Internet Users / FeTIAFUILAC- LACfacebook Internet Users Federation: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinasMobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano

Mon., Jun. 32019 at 12:49, <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:

Sergio, with this the rotation for these elections would be approved, but not the rotation system.
regards
Alberto Soto

From: lac-discuss-es <lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> On behalf of Sergio Salinas Porto Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:08 pm To: At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org> ; LACRALO Spanish <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] LACRALO Elections

Dear colleagues, as you know, we have an electoral process ahead of us.
Most regions have already started this and some have already completed it.
In the governance group, different meetings have been held in order to reach agreement on how the electoral process will be and we have reached an agreement by consensus in the last meeting.
This would be the method of rotation and positions to be chosen by LACRALO for this election, the methodological formula of definitive rotation of positions will be put in writing in our new rules of procedure.
the positions to choose and the subregions for each of them would be like this.

President MERCOSUR (SUBREGION D)
Vice President CENTRAL AMERICA (SUBREGION A)
Secretary ANDES (SUBREGION B)
Vice Secretary CARIBBEAN (SUBREGION C)
ALAC Member MERCOSUR -Excluded Argentina- (SUBREGION D)
Member of the Caribbean NomCom (SUBREGION C)

In cases where there is only one candidate at any time, consider the candidate chosen by acclamation and without further need of a vote.

We put this proposal to the consideration of the region, I will give precise instructions to the staff, so that I put to vote this so that it is approved by the region and we put the electoral process in motion.
A big hug to all and all

Sergio Salinas PortoPresident Internaut Argentina - LACRALO / ICANNA Argentina Association of Internet Users / FeTIAFUILAC- LACfacebook Internet Users Federation: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinasMobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 "Hopefully we can be disobedient, every time we receive orders that humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo Galeano

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