[lac-discuss-en] Nombre de domiinio geograficos

Sergio Salinas Porto presidencia at internauta.org.ar
Thu Sep 6 19:10:16 UTC 2018


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Subject:Re:  Nombre de domiinio geograficos
Desde:Sergio Salinas Porto <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>

Hello friends, from my humble opinion, I think we have tienpo (adjusted but there are) to have a generalized opinion of our region from the consensus.
A quick opinion based on what I have been supporting since siempe is that with regard to cities and regions should be safeguarded for them, for the countries that contain them (case patagonia, cba (already lost), amazons, etc).
For me it is not necessary to fix number of inhabitants to give priority to the countries.
I think that our compass should guide us to focus on the public interest and not enter the crossroads that the market proposes.
I think it's a bad idea to start from the proposed number of inhabitants.
To do business, entrepreneurs can always find other domains that do not affect the interests of the countries.
my two cents

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On Thu, 6 Sept 2018 at 12:49, Adrian Carballo ( <ainfodata at gmail.com> ) wrote:

Dear Alberto,

I regret that you have interpreted my message as an objection, nothing further from my intention that is to collaborate with your query.

As I have expressed to you, there is still time to work on consensus on this issue, in fact it would be a very good idea to motivate the participation of our region.

The personal opinions are of great relevance since they express the knowledge of each colleague based on his experience and trajectory. In fact, at the moment, there are only personal opinions in the WT5 debate.

I am at your disposal to collaborate on this topic.

Best regards,
Adrián


On Thu, 6 Sept 2018 at 12:34, Alberto Soto ( <asoto at ibero-americano.org> ) wrote:

Adrian, it's my way of proceeding. And I've always done it this way, I miss the objection. When it was necessary and there was time, he was raised to the list seeking consensus.
I think it is very positive to obtain feedback from our Region and not to issue personal opinions.
It is my policy as ALAC Member, and my procedure since I joined LACRALO in 2005.
Thank you anyway

regards

Alberto Soto

From: Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 11:45 am To: Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> CC: danielaf.araya at gmail.com; LACRALO Spanish <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ; lac-discuss-es at icann.org; Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geographical domain name

Dear Alberto,

I have some doubts about your message and I kindly ask you if you can help me understand them:

- What do you mean by "I want a general opinion"?
I do not see another way to have something like that, except through consensus.

- about the required times, if you are following the debates in WT5 you will know that there is an open document for comments where I have personally made my contributions. There is still time to make contributions. I suggest that you review the attached documents in the messages of the WT5 list, they have been sent recently for the call of last Wednesday 5 UTC in which I participated from Argentina.

- If you are not going to say what is LACRALO's opinion because it should be a "general opinion"? You can make contributions in a personal capacity in the preliminary document that is open to comments, in the list, or in calls every two weeks.

I follow all calls and discussions on the WT5 list carefully and have my full support for this important task.

regards
Adrian


On Thu, 6 Sept 2018 at 11:30, Alberto Soto ( <asoto at ibero-americano.org> ) wrote:

Adrian, I want the general opinion. A consensus opinion of LACRALO would not arrive in the times that are required. I will not say what is LACRALO's opinion,
Thank you

Alberto

From: Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> Sent on: Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:59 a.m.To: Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> CC: danielaf.araya at gmail.com; LACRALO Spanish <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ; lac-discuss-es at icann.org; Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geographical domain name

Dear Alberto,
If your idea is to take a position of the region to the WT5 on geographic names, this initiative should be taken to LACRALO and elaborate a consensus opinion from the LACRALO.

Olga Cavalli is one of the Chairs of the group and can help us with the state of the debate to date.

Best regards,
Adrián Carballo
President
Include me Foundation


On Thu, 6 Sept 2018 at 10:48, Alberto Soto ( <asoto at ibero-americano.org> ) wrote:

Thanks, Adrian. I know and I know all this because I'm in the work group. My consultation is precisely so that our Region has a greater participation, and my opinion in the working group is based precisely on those opinions. I want to take the opinion of our Region, not my own particular one.
regards

Alberto Soto

From: Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> Sent on: Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:46 a.m.To: Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> CC: danielaf.araya at gmail.com; LACRALO Spanish <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ; lac-discuss-es at icann.org; Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geographical domain name

Dear Alberto,

If you refer to the new round of gTLDs and reserved names, the issue of defining and protecting names of cities and geographical areas is a topic that is currently under discussion in the WT5 list of the new round of gTLDs.

There is no single definition of geographical name and this is precisely the complexity of the subject.

For the AGB 2012 (guide of the applicant of the first round of new gtlds) the capital cities of countries were protected and could only be used as a new gTLD with the consent of the city itself (eg: .berlin, .paris).

Then in the AGB there are a series of lists of ISO (3166 1 - 2 and others) and of the United Nations with restrictions.

One of the current debates about what names of cities to protect would be based on the number of inhabitants each city has, but it is not defined yet.

I hope this information will be useful.

Best regards,
Adrian Carballo
President
Include me Foundation


On Thu, 6 Sept 2018 at 10:40, Alberto Soto ( <asoto at ibero-americano.org> ) wrote:

Thanks Daniela. In this case, we must give a general opinion on whether city names are reserved from a certain number of inhabitants, and from what number of inhabitants. For example: all the names of cities that exceed five million inhabitants must be reserved. I repeat, this is just an example. Another opinion may be: No city name should be reserved ...
Best regards

AlbertoSoto

From: Daniela Araya <danielaf.araya at gmail.com> Sent on: Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:31 am To: Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> CC: lac-discuss-es at icann.org; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Geographical domain name

Hello Alberto, to my consideration from Argentina, you should reserve, the names of the different provinces, of regions, such as NOA (North-West-Argentine) WHOSE reference, to the set of several provinces.

Greet Atte.
Araya Daniela
Ageia

On September 5, 2018, 2:42 PM, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:

Dear, I need opinion that the names of cities that have a certain number of inhabitants (still to be determined, but would be an important amount), are considered geographical names, and therefore, are considered reserved domains.

I hope your quick collaboration.

Best regards

Alberto Soto
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