[lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] REMINDER / Meeting Invitation: ALAC Monthly Call on Tuesday, 22 May 2018 at 12:00 UTC

Tue May 22 01:12:21 UTC 2018

Carlos, since you and your colleagues are the 
ones who believe that the CPH letter has 
significant merit, and you are the ones with the 
deadline, I strongly suggest that you or one of 
your colleagues ask exactly what the letter that you are supporting means.

Alan

At 21/05/2018 07:14 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez wrote:

>Good clarification to ask to the CPH Chair Alan! 
>But hopefully in a fast and efficnet way 
>forward. LACRALO is in the middle of a process 
>to address many of the issues raised, and we 
>would greatl profit from clear and direct responses.
>
>Best
>---
>Carlos RaÃºl GutiÃ©rrez
>
>El 2018-05-21 09:44, Alan Greenberg escribiÃ³:
>>There is a standing item on the At-large Review 
>>on the ALAC agenda, and the letter(s) will be discussed.
>>
>>HOWEVER, a main point of the CPH letter was 
>>that we did not address all of the issues 
>>raised in the ITEMS International Report. It 
>>would be useful if you could identify WHICH 
>>items you (or the CPH) believe were not addressed.
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>
>>At 21/05/2018 10:35 AM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for your fast and thorough response Ricardo!
>>
>>First of all, let me clarify that I was 
>>referring to the letter of the CPH only. Not of the NCSG.
>>
>>As NomCom nominated member of the GNSO assigned 
>>to the CPH, I must tell you that I have never 
>>gotten the feeling that anything discussed in 
>>either group of the CPH is driven by hate. 
>>Moreover, over the last year the discussions on 
>>budget, reviews and the need for a lot of 
>>volunteer support for the very necesary policy 
>>development have been the main issues discussed 
>>at all levels of the GNSO, CPH and Registries 
>>and Registrars stakeholder groups. I really see 
>>no reason by reading the letter to assume any 
>>hidden motivation for this letter and hope that 
>>LACRALO as a Group will do as well. We really 
>>have to avoid such comments unless you have any way to substantiate them.
>>
>>The budgetary, personal and accountability 
>>stress that the oong list of reviews has on the 
>>whole organization is more than well 
>>documented, as you can see from the recent blog 
>>and webinar that will deal in detail with short 
>>and long term proposal from the organzation to 
>>the community to deal with the high 
>>responsability of all review. I can't read more 
>>in Graeme's letter that a very big worry about 
>>the high standars we expect from all reviews 
>>that justify the newly won independence of ICANN.
>>
>>I look forward to your feedback and comments on 
>>our next LACRALO call, maybe on 28 May if it 
>>gets confirmed, as I have another call tomorrow 
>>monring and wont be able to follow the ALAC call.
>>
>>I wish you a very nice week.
>>---
>>Carlos RaÃƒÂºl GutiÃƒÂ©rrez
>>
>>
>>El 2018-05-21 07:04, Ricardo Holmquist escribiÃƒÂ³:
>>Dear Carlos Raul,
>>The point is not in agenda, but for sure we can arise it as an AOB item.
>>
>>In other hand, the actual answer from Alan 
>>Greenberg is that the NCSG letter is not 
>>official, and that once official, ALAC will answer it.
>>
>>IMHO both letters were written with more hate 
>>than real toughs. I might agree that the 
>>external review have some trues, but my first 
>>reading a while ago is that it also contains a 
>>bunch of missinformation and half trues 
>>(reading both letters, I can find where they came from).
>>
>>It was the work of a lot of people, not only 
>>from ALAC, but from all the RALOs, involved in 
>>the preparation of the answer, also there were 
>>at least two comment periods, and the 
>>opportunity to submit comments to the LACRALO 
>>or ALAC working on it (I was not in ALAC, nor 
>>in the WG, altough I send several comments at the time).
>>
>>This is almost in the final steps of approval 
>>(or not) from the Board, to begin an 
>>implementation plan, where for sure, we all 
>>need to put more than a grain of sand to make 
>>it work, not only for ALAC, but importantly for LACRALO.
>>
>>Sincerely
>>
>>Ricardo Holmquist
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 21 May 2018 at 13:50, Carlos Raul 
>>Gutierrez <<mailto:crg at isoc-cr.org>crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
>>To our LACRALO representatives in ALAC,
>>I kindly request to our members in ALAC, to 
>>take the opportunity of this call and discuss 
>>the CPH letter of 7 May to the ICANN Chairman 
>>on the ALAC Implementation Overview Proposal, 
>>Approved by the ALAC, 20 April 2018 (both 
>>attached for your convenience). Under any 
>>circumstance (not only present budgetary 
>>constrains) this letter from a GNSO 
>>constituency as very relevant to our past and 
>>future work, and we should be have all elements 
>>for a serious discussion on our next LACRALO call on 28 May.
>>Happy week to all
>>Carlos RaÃƒÂºl GutiÃƒÂ©rrez
>>ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>>skype carlos.raulg
>>+506 8837 7176
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