[lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

[Javier Rua]

I wonder whether there is a wider conversation here to be had about many of
the economic premises and justifications behind new gTLDs...

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:48 AM Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
wrote:

> Yes. Was just answering Olivier's question.
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> Alan
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> On July 11, 2018 10:28:38 AM EDT, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
> michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
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>> That’s a tiny amount of money for a Fortune 500 etc
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>> Mr Michele Neylon
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>> *From: *Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Date: *Wednesday 11 July 2018 at 15:27
>> *To: *Olivier Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, Michele Neylon <
>> michele at blacknight.com>, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>,
>> At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "
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>> *Subject: *Re: [lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning
>> .vista
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>> Over and above anything else, there is the $25k annual registry fee plus
>> whatever their registry operator is charging them.
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>> Alan
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>> At 11/07/2018 09:42 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
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>> Dear Michele,
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>> I wonder why they are dropping it. Does it cost them more in the long
>> run, than using several composed domains?
>> Kindest regards,
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>> Olivier
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>> On 11/07/2018 10:27, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>
>> Carlton
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>> It’s a .brand – zero “normal†registrants or users will be impacted
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>> If it was a TLD with actual registrations then it would be a totally
>> different matter, but it isn’t.
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>> Regards
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>> Michele
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>> Blacknight Solutions
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>> <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Carlton Samuels
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>> *Date: *Tuesday 10 July 2018 at 21:10
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>> *Subject: *[At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista
>>
>> Maybe we should track these 'returns/abandonments' and in context,
>> [re]read the recommendations of the Subsequent Procedures WG?
>>
>> Saw a story of a domain investor account of his return on investment so
>> far; he's in the red with diminishing prospects.
>>
>> On top of these kind of stories that speak to the conditions in the end
>> user market and the 'retired and/or abandoned gLTDs, it just seems
>> 'otherworldly' to me that in all the happy talk of new rounds, this idea
>> that demand has something to do with markets is largely left unmentioned.
>> Helluva thing!
>>
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>> https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domain/
>>
>> -Carlton
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