[lac-discuss-en] [ALAC] IO recommends .amazon reconsideration

Wed Jul 19 14:39:17 UTC 2017

Totally agree with Alan’s analysis. I haven’s seen any real debate or rationale, even none from our government. As I already said. If it was so relevant for our population why our Patent Office granted the trade mark to AMAZON? The use of such brand will be, in this case, similar to .amazon use. I do not see and I believe Amazon .com made it clear that this is brand TLD.
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From: <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 11:31
To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>>, Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com<mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com>>
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Subject: Re: [ALAC] [lac-discuss-en] IO recommends .amazon reconsideration

I have a somewhat different viewpoint. It is true that the position of the GAC and its advice may be changing, but we need to look at the specifics of this particular case.

The GAC has given lots of advice. Some is followed, some is rejected and in some cases a middle-ground is found. In all such cases, there is plenty of debate and discussion. In the case of .amazon, the GAC provided no rationale for the advice (they were not required to at the time). But more surprisingly, the Board did not subject this to debate but rather, and without rationale (which WAS required!) simply accepted the GAC advice. The IRP, in my mind, is simply recognizing that the Board did not follow its usual and proper practice of attempting to balance competing interests in this case.

Alan

At 19/07/2017 09:55 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:

Yes mam, this is indeed the key strategic implication from the IRP. In my own view however, ALAC [re]action may be premature for objective.

Recent developments, especially this empowered community model, has already undermined the "GAC advises, Board follows" scheme. I see this IRP decision as adding grist to the mill in any downstream federal court action. If and when a federal district court makes that pronouncement, then stick a fork in it. It is roasted.

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On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:36 AM, Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com<mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com> > wrote:

But to me, far more important in the long term is the very clear rejection of "the GAC advises, the Board follows" model. The ruling has chipped away at the power of the GAC "advice" , and may change the dynamic of the stakeholder roles in ICANN.
Might this be an opportunity for At-Large to work towards balancing the roles of the ACs? Given that the relationship with the Board is different for the various ACs, based on the bye-laws.
Jacqueline

On 18 Jul 2017 11:38, "Dev Anand Teelucksingh" <devtee at gmail.com<mailto:devtee at gmail.com>> wrote:

The IRP decision:
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irp-amazon-final-declaration-11jul17-en.pdf

Dev Anand

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Carlton Samuels
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> Adds to the kerfuffle surrounding geographic names in the DNS.
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> http://domainnamewire.com/2017/07/18/amazon-com-gets-big-win-domain-battle-may-yet-get-amazon-domain/
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