[lac-discuss-en] res: Caribnog events in Jamaica

Jason Hynds jason.hynds at partsinc.biz
Sat Mar 5 12:26:57 UTC 2016


Dear Mr. Soto,

Thanks for your guidance and that of the regional CROPP team.

The proposal is the same place as all the other proposals:

  * https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+DRAFTS.

Further to this during my saves of the application I had the"Notify 
Watchers" option set, so I assume that the LACRALO CROPP committee was 
being automatically alerted.

I have not seen the deadline listed as an exact date and time zone and 
further to this I uploaded my application on March 2nd with respect to 
my time zone. My final edit, of a series of about 4 - for layout and 
minor content, did extend into the first minute of March 3rd, 2016. If 
the Wiki has a background versioning feature, this should show.

The application form states:

  * Trip Proposals must be completed at least six (6) weeks before the
    event start date.




The point is that my substantive application date matches the suggested 
deadline date quoted in an earlier email:

  * "A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March 2, 2016"


Your assertion of "El plazo ya expiró"  or "The deadline has already 
expired" appears to be inconsistent with the empirical. Please prove to 
me otherwise.


*CaribNOG 11* starts starts on April 20th, 2016:

  * This 7 weeks (49 days) away from the March 2nd, 2016 date.
  * Even for a submission on March 3rd, 2016 that is still 48 days or
    6.857 weeks away.
  * The real application deadline should be March 9th, 2016, if we are
    practising date mathematics.

In my humble opinion, if there are rules one should be unambiguous with 
them and follow their spirit.


Under the conditions for CROPP in ICANN Fiscal Year 2015, see 
https://community.icann.org/x/zC6fAg, submission were required 8 weeks 
prior to travel. For the current CROPP, I respected the spirit of the 
date identified in the email thread as well as the dictates of the 
application form.

    It could be construed as unfair for you to arbitrarily rule against
    those listing in an apparent attempt to disqualify my submission.


I also reviewed the precedent set with the CROPP proposal deadline of 
May 10th, 2015 for the June 21st, 2015 ICANN 53 in Buenos Aires. That 
gave the proposal a 42 days (6 week) travel window. Refer to 
"*[lac-discuss-en] Call for CROPP proposals from LACRALO for travel to 
ICANN 53 Buenos Aires meeting*" of *5/1/2015 12:53 PM* (UTC -0400).





Thanks for your time. Have a great day!

Regards,

Jason Hynds

On 3/4/2016 6:34 PM, asoto at ibero-americano.org wrote:
> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>
>   Subject: Re: res: Caribnog events in Jamaica
>   from: asoto at ibero-americano.org
>
>   Dev, we do not receive that proposal. I remember the way, first LACRALO, then
>   discussed, it approved or not, and follow the path for approval to
>   GSE ends. The term and expir.
>   Greetings.
>
>
>   Alberto Soto
>
>
>   -----Original message-----
>   From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>   [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
>   devtee at gmail.com
>   Posted on: Friday, March 4, 2016 7:17 pm
>   To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>   Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] res: Caribnog events in Jamaica
>
>
>
>
>   [[Translated text (in -> en) -]]
>
>
>   Subject: Re: res: Caribnog events in Jamaica
>   From: devtee at gmail.com
>
>
>   Dear Alberto, just as an FYI, Jason Hynds had also submitted
>   a proposal Cropp
>   https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+3+DRAFT
>   CaribNOG
>
>
>
>
>   dev Anand
>
>
>
>
>   On Thursday March 3, 2016, <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
>   >
>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>>
>>   Subject: Re: res: Caribnog Event in Jamaica
>>   from: asoto at ibero-americano.org <javascript:;>
>>
>>   Dev regret answer with delay, freshly just entered the hotel
>> Marrakech.
>>   Colombia event comenzsiendo the first forum of Latin America. Ped
>> the organizers to be of Latinaomrica and Caribbean, and aslo have changed.
>>   At that time pedpor mail Caribbean organizations, volunteers  to work
>> on the organization of the event. They offered from Haity  Dominican
>> Republic and are working.
>>   Asque my criteria for Caribnog, it was to select someone in the
>> Caribbean,  supuesto.Y select people who are offered work, asking for
>> a  technical person, but I think we all are technicians. But let hands
>> Hait our ALS.I can not select members who do not work, not
>> participate in monthly meetings, not PARTICIPATING IN webinar or any
>> other activity of our Ralo,  I did not know that conocas both Derisma
>> Queslin, but anyway, I think  ests again invading jurisdictions. It is
>> your task within the CROPP  people comment on the leadership of a Ralo
>> postulates. Yes, there is  deficiencies techniques, which do not seem
>> to have found it.
>>   Asque please do not delay this for falling within the required time.
>>   Thank you
>>
>>
>>   Alberto
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   -----Original message-----
>>   From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> <javascript:;>] On behalf of  devtee at gmail.com <javascript:;>  Posted
>> on: wednesday, March 2, 2016 9:28 pm
>>   To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] res: Caribnog Event in Jamaica
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   [[Translated text (in -&gt; en) -]]
>>
>>
>>   Subject: Re: res: Caribnog Event in Jamaica
>>   From: devtee at gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>
>>
>>   Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   The proposal for Derisma CROPP Queslin to attend spectacles  CaribNOG
>> some deficiencies.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Given the objectives of CROPP, Derisma Queslin has little or  no
>> experience  or previous participation in ICANN and scope of ICANN and
>> therefore not  a qualified person to do divulgacin on behalf of
>> At-Large person.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   However, since the CROPP has a residual purpose of divulgaciny
>>
>>
>>   commitment, a case could be that Derisma Queslin of Haitpodra  with
>> the aim of assisting that person to commit to  In the largest ICANN
>> without direct tutor, that goal will not do  It serrealizado probably
>> successfully.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   The proposal presented by Jacqueline Morris falls directly in line
>> with
>>
>>
>>   the goals and desired outcomes for CROPP.In addition, it is likely
>> CaribNOG have a speaking slot 11, raising Asel profile  ICANN At-Large
>> in CaribNOG 11.Jacqueline also may lead Derisma  and make
>> introductions CaribNOG attendees.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Since we have slots available CROPP, goals and results  CROPP  It can
>> be performed by the sending of both proposals. The proposal  Desirma
>> Queslin updated to focus on the commitment and proposal  Jacqueline
>> Morris continues centrndose in it also divulgaciny  can  Derisma as
>> describianteriormente guide.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   dev Anand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   The Sun, 2 Mar, 2016 at 24:09, <jam at jacquelinemorris.com <javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>>   >
>>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>>>
>>>   Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>>>   from: jam at jacquelinemorris.com <javascript:;>
>>>
>>>   Hi everyone
>>>   The Outreach meeting information Indicated That the deadline for
>>>   to CROPP application was March 2nd, Which is today. I've Submitted
>>>   Seems it from this thread That the decision has Already Been made,
>> albeit
>>>   before the due date? That I really hope my submission Given That was
>> done
>>>   in advance of the date, my application is Considered For This outreach
>>>   event.
>>>   Sincerely
>>>   Jacqueline Morris
>>>
>>>
>>>   Jacqueline A. Morris
>>>   Technology Should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
>>>   Free. (After Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>   >
>>>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>>>>
>>>>   Subject: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>>>>   from: sylvia at internautabrasil.org <javascript:;>
>>>>
>>>>   +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ___________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Sylvia Leite Herlein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org <javascript:;>>
>> sylvia at internautabrasil.org <javascript:;>
>>>>
>>>>   ALAC-LACRALO Delegate to NomComm 2014-2016
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   One World, One Internet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   cid: 26A2D0D9-E7A9-455D-BCDC-26757E8E3078
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ex - LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2014 -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ex - ALAC Member 2009-2011 - <http://atlarge.icann.org/>
>>>> http://atlarge.icann.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Skype: sylvia_leite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>> [mailto:
>>>> lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>] Em nome
>> of Humberto
>>>> Carrasco
>>>>   Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16
>>>>   To: Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>   Cc: LACRALO
>>>>   Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Alexander,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   A very wise decision in my view.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com
>> <javascript:;>> He
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Alberto, all / as,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and
>> the
>>>> person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the
>>   >> The neediest Organizations in the Caribbean.
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Alejandro Pisanty
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto <
>> asoto at ibero-americano.org <javascript:;>>
>>   >> Wrote:
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Dear all, Dev.
>>   >> Below the link With the application for the event in Montego Bay,
>>   Jamaica.
>>   >> Derisma Concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne
>>   >> Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, Which you live in a
>>   >> With poor communications, make Contact with the various sponsors and
>>   >> Concurrent. It is Requested That ALS had a technical profile for
>>   >> Be commensurate to the level of the event.
>>   >> You get a specific view of the region, and disseminate May
>>   >> ALS Develops ITS activities, LACRALO and ICANN.
>>   >> I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO
>>   >> I CAN.
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Best regards
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Alberto Soto
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>
>>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> ----- Original message -----
>>   >> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   >> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> On behalf of
>>   >> Alberto
>>   >> copse
>>   >> Posted on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:39 a.m.
>>   >> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   >> CC: 'LACRALO discussion list' <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> <javascript:;>>
>>   >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O &amp;
>>   >> On Thursday 25 February 2016
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Dear, we are working on the designation of Who Will Attend esta
>>   >> Event. This form will be filed With The applicant designated in the
>>   >> Today or tomorrow.
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Best regards
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Alberto Soto
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> ----- Original message -----
>>   >> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   >> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> On behalf of
>>   >> Posted
>>   >> On: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:01 a.m.
>>   >> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   >> CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> <javascript:;>>
>>   >> Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25
>>   >> February 2016
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> [[Translated text (in -&gt; en) -]]
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25
>>   >> February 2016
>>   >> From: devtee at gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Thanks Jacqueline, here is how to be filled LACRALO CROPP
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>
>>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> The materials can be sent to headquarters by the ICANN staff,
>>   >> Provided advance notice.Outreach and Participation SC
>>   >> Wiki has a page to keep track of Such materials
>>   >> Broadcasting applications.
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> Dev Anand
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >> The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris &lt;
>>   >> Jam at jacquelinemorris.com <javascript:;>&gt;
>>   >> I wrote:
>>   >>> Hi everyone
>>   >>> I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls exactly
>>   >>> In
>>   >>> Days Between the UTT and UWI exam periods. Can be materials etc.
>>   >>> Shipped Directly to the venue? The overlap on April 20th Between ARIN
>>   >>> And CaribNog Seems as well serendipitous. Sounds like a great
>>   opportunity
>>   >>> Jacqueline
>>   >>>
>>   >>> Jacqueline A.Morris
>>   >>> Technology Should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible
>>   >>> (After Chris Lehmann)
>>   >>>
>>   >>> On Sat, February 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM Dev Anand Teelucksingh
>>   >>> Wrote:
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Dear All,
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O
>> &amp; E) had a
>>   >> &gt;&gt; On
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Thursday 25 February 2016 (
>> https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw)
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the
>> LAC
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O &amp; E
>>   >> &gt;&gt; (Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List) for possible
>> outreach
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals.
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for
>> using
>>   CROPP:
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) -
>> May 2
>>   >> &gt;&gt; To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia)
>> - May 17
>>   >> &gt;&gt; To May 18
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Suggestions?
>>   >> &gt;&gt; A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March
>> 2, 2016.
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was.
>>   >> &gt;&gt; A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016.
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Suggested That a speaker, Shiva Bissessar Could speak on
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request
>> CROPP
>>   >> &gt;&gt; For This proposal needs to be filed by March 29 2016.
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship
>> to SSGI
>>   >> &gt;&gt; 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need
>> some
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Outreach materials before then.
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>>   Dev Anand &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
>>   >> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Lac-discuss-in mailing list
>>   >> &gt;&gt; Lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org <javascript:;>
>>   >> &gt;&gt;
>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
>>   >>>
>>   >>>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >>
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [[--Original text (es)
> http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/366ab46f00.html
> --]]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lac-discuss-en mailing list
> lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/attachments/20160305/d0666fa8/attachment-0001.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: aaceefbj.png
Type: image/png
Size: 19513 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/attachments/20160305/d0666fa8/aaceefbj-0001.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: biifjdah.png
Type: image/png
Size: 54707 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/attachments/20160305/d0666fa8/biifjdah-0001.png>


More information about the lac-discuss-en mailing list