[lac-discuss-en] RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica

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 Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica 
 from: apisanty at gmail.com

 Niran, 


 I have Referred to the geography as "subregion" in an Attempt to keep the 
 LAC region of ICANN in communication at the ground level of our 
 Organizations and people; to Maintain the long-term, big-picture view. The 
 Including policy of people from different subregions in CROPP activity was 
 as long ago made a good-faith way to avoid the looming splintering Actively 
 Among Organizations With claims for representation in the region. The unity 
 of the region has-been recently Recognised by the "regions study" and there 
 there is little wiggle room (all that is available must be used, of course.) 


 Have I deliberately left out any of Individuals in order nominations to 
 leave open the Possibility of volunteers Who Can Effectively bridge the 
 many different conditions we all face. I am not a volunteer for esta 
 activity.


 Other Participations In This discussion Have Given a different kind of 
 signal. After months of silence and abstaining from an election we now Have 
 a couple of messages, one line of Which is asking for travel support and 
 the other stereotyping negatively to large part of our community. That, for 
 me, is a conversation-stopper. I hope to travel to reliable Those Marrakech can 
 meet in a constructive mood and Achieve face-to-face communication That the 
 is hard to Achieve by email and has-been proven impossible just now. Yo soy 
 out except for the need to reply to unmotivated, unfair attacks: such as 
 Have Already Been read again today. It Seems That we are back into the 
 Where an intervention terrain of third parties has-been called for and must 
 That is wait till resolved. 


 I am sad Potentially That your good-faith question to me has-been drowned 
 out by others. We almost got something going constructive. 


 Yours, 


 Alejandro Pisanty 


 On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Niran Beharry <nbeharrytt at gmail.com> wrote: 


> So Alejandro are you suggesting that someone outside the region mentor Derisma
> Queslin along with all the unique economic, cultural and historical
> challenges we experience in the Caribbean, and if so who do you suggest ?
> Or are you just taking an ideological stance practical and realistic
> benefits for that person and the overall goals and outcomes for CROPP be
> damned ?
> Niran Beharry
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:18 PM, <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>>  Subject: Re: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>>  from: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>>
>>  Really now!
>>
>>
>>  I have retreated From this list it depresses the spirit Because .... and
>> take
>>  away from the quality of my life.
>>
>>
>>  May be the member from Ibero-America is in a time zone 12 hours That Is
>>  ahead of us. But the record will show this is yet another example of the
>>  LACRALO [former] leadership tendency to dictatorial Franco-style
>> Behaviour.
>>
>>
>>  And Why They no longer enjoy my respect. Or acknowledgment.
>>
>>
>>  This well know. The rump That is LACRALO leadership will never be allowed
>>  to define the Caribbean's experience or ITS needs. PERIOD.
>>
>>
>>  I am Jamaican. I know what is happening in Jamaica and the Caribbean at
>>  large. Quite apart from the fact We were never Consulted, the proposal
>>  CROPP for Derisma under Queslin to Attend CaribNOG major shows
>>  deficiencies. And a woeful ignorance of our situation.
>>
>>
>>  Most CaribNOG are Inglés-speaking attendees.The senior leadership of
>>  CaribNOG are very much aware of the technical aspects of ICANN
>> engagement;
>>  Bevil Wooding check out here:
>>  http://www.root-dnssec.org/tcr/selection-2010/
>>
>>
>>  I do not know Derisma Queslin. But I can Assure You That Given the goals
>> of
>>  CROPP, I am not aware That Derisma Queslin have the experience or
>> previous
>>  Involvement in ICANN and ICANN At-Large to Effectively execute outreach
>> to
>>  Inglés-speaking Caribbean mostly At-Large interests on the Behalf of
>> ICANN
>>  At-Large.
>>
>>
>>  CROPP has a residual purpose of outreach and engagement. So We Could
>> make a
>>  very weak case for Derisma Queslin to Attend With the goal of Having That
>>  Become more person engaged in ICANN At Large. But absent direct
>> mentoring,
>>  That goal would not likely to be successfully Realized.
>>
>>
>>  The Proposal Submitted By Jacqueline Morris falls inline Directly With
>> The
>>  Desired goals and outcomes for CROPP. My friend and colleague Bevil
>>  Wooding is the convenor and in chareg of the book at CaribNOG. Jacqueline
>>  Already have a speaking slot at assured CaribNOG 11 THUS raising the
>>  profile of ICANN At-Large at CaribNOG 11.Jacqueline Could Also mentor
>>  Derisma and make introductions to the attendees at CaribNOG.
>>
>>
>>  We Have Given CROPP available slots, the goals and outcomes of CROPP can
>> be
>>  Realized by sending Both Proposals. The proposal for Desirma Queslin May
>> be
>>  updated to focus on engagement and the proposal for Jacqueline Morris
>>  Continues to focus on outreach and she can mentor Also as described
>> Derisma
>>  earlier.
>>
>>
>>  Samuels -Carlton
>>  The University of the West Indies
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ==============================
>>  Carlton A Samuels
>>  Mobile: 876-818-1799
>>  * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment &amp; Turnaround *
>>  =============================
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:07 AM Jacqueline Morris <
>> jam at jacquelinemorris.com
>> > wrote:
>> > Hi everyone
>> > The Outreach meeting information indicated that the deadline for
>> > submitting a CROPP application was March 2nd, which is today. I've
>> > submitted mine, but it seems from this thread  that the decision has
>> > already been made, albeit before the due date? I really hope that  given
>> > that my submission was done in advance of the date, my application is
>> >  considered for this outreach event.
>> > Sincerely
>> > Jacqueline Morris
>> >
>> > Jacqueline A. Morris
>> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
>> > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 PM, <sylvia at internautabrasil.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>> >>
>> >>  Subject: RES: Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>> >>  from: sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>> >>
>> >>  +1
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>> >>  ___________________________________________________
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>> >>
>> >>  Sylvia Leite Herlein
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org> sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ALAC-LACRALO Delegate to NomComm 2014-2016
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  One World, One Internet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  cid: 26A2D0D9-E7A9-455D-BCDC-26757E8E3078
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ex - LACRALO Secretary-ICANN / 2012-2014 -
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ex - ALAC Member 2009-2011 - <http://atlarge.icann.org/>
>> >> http://atlarge.icann.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Skype: sylvia_leite
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
>> >> lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Humberto
>> >> Carrasco
>> >>  Posted in: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 21:16
>> >>  To: Alejandro Pisanty
>> >>  Cc: LACRALO
>> >>  Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Event Caribnog in Jamaica
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Alexander,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>  A very wise decision in my view.
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>  Cheers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  The 01/03/2016, at 8:58 pm, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com> He
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Alberto, all / as,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  I applaud this decision by the procedure, criteria, organization and
>> the
>> >> person appointed. A good result of your action to diversify the
>> presence of
>> >> the neediest organizations in the Caribbean.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Alejandro Pisanty
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Alberto Soto <
>> asoto at ibero-americano.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Dear all, Dev.
>> >>  Below the link with the application for the event in Montego Bay,
>> >> Jamaica.
>> >>  Derisma concur Queslin, member of the Association des Haitienne
>> >>  Internautes Haiti. This will allow our ALS, which resides in a country
>> >>  with poor communications, make contact with the various sponsors and
>> >>  concurrent. It is requested that ALS had a technical profile for
>> >>  be commensurate to the level of the event.
>> >>  You get a specific view of the region, and may disseminate
>> >>  ALS develops its activities, LACRALO and ICANN.
>> >>  I'll send to the event venue, media materials and LACRALO
>> >>  I CAN.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Alberto Soto
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  -----Original message-----
>> >>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
>> >> Alberto
>> >>  copse
>> >>  Posted on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:39 a.m.
>> >>  To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >>  CC: 'LACRALO discussion list' <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >
>> >>  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] The results of the LACRALO call O &amp;
>> E
>> >>  on Thursday 25 February 2016
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Dear, we are working on the designation of who will attend this
>> >>  event. This form will be filed with the applicant designated in the
>> >>  today or tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Alberto Soto
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  -----Original message-----
>> >>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
>> >> Posted
>> >>  on: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:01 a.m.
>> >>  To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> >>  CC: LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> >>  Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25
>> >>  February 2016
>> >>
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>> >>  Subject: Re: Results of the LACRALO call O &amp; E on Thursday 25
>> >>  February 2016
>> >>  From: devtee at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Thanks Jacqueline, here is how LACRALO CROPP to be filled
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1+DRAFT
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  The materials can be sent to headquarters by the ICANN staff,
>> >>  provided advance notice. Outreach and Participation SC
>> >>  wiki has a page to keep track of such materials
>> >>  broadcasting applications.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  dev Anand
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  The Sun February 27, 2016 at 18:01, Jacqueline Morris <
>> >> jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
>> >>  He wrote:
>> >> > Hi everyone
>> >> > I can be available for the CaribNog meeting. It luckily falls exactly
>> >> > in
>> >> > days between the UTT and UWI exam periods. Can materials etc be
>> >> > shipped directly to the venue? The overlap on April 20th between ARIN
>> >> > and CaribNog seems serendipitous as well. Sounds like a great
>> >> opportunity
>> >> > Jacqueline
>> >> >
>> >> > Jacqueline A. Morris
>> >> > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible
>> and
>> >> > (after Chris Lehmann )
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The LACRALO members of the Outreach and Engagement SC (LAC O&E) had
>> a
>> >>  >> on
>> >>  >> Thursday 25 February 2016 (  https://community.icann.org/x/UxmAAw)
>> >>  >> Together with the LACRALO chair and secretariat reviewed the LAC
>> >>  >> Outreach events calendar maintained by the LAC O &amp; E
>> >>  >> (Http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar-List) for possible
>> outreach
>> >>  >> Events That Could be used for CROPP Proposals.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> Three Proposals Were Identified as suitable candidates for using
>> >> CROPP:
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> CaribNOG (Jamaica) - April 20 to April 22 LACNIC 26 (Cuba) - May 2
>> >>  >> To May 6 First Latin American and Caribbean Forum (Colombia) - May
>> 17
>> >>  >> To May 18
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> For the CaribNOG event, no traveler was on the call Suggested.
>> >>  >> Suggestions?
>> >>  >> A request for CaribNOG CROPP needs to be filed around March 2,
>> 2016.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> For the LACNIC 26, Cuba, Harold Suggested Arcos was.
>> >>  >> A request for LACNIC needs CROPP filed by March to July 2016.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> For the Latin American and Caribbean Forum in Colombia, it was
>> >>  >> Suggested That a speaker, Shiva Bissessar Could speak on
>> >>  >> Cybersecurity At this event using a CROPP proposal. A request CROPP
>> >>  >> For This proposal needs to be filed by March 29 2016.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> It was NOTED That Bartlett Morgan HAD Obtained a fellowship to SSGI
>> >>  >> 2016 from March 29 to April 2016 January 2016 so I would need some
>> >>  >> Outreach materials before then.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  Dev Anand &gt;&gt;
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