[lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
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Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
From: hcarrascob at gmail.com
Dear,
Alberto tells what is what occurred.
Cheers
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> El 20-01-2016, a las 11:50 a.m., Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> escribió:
>
> Gracias Dev.
> Estimados, sugiero que pierdan un poco de tiempo y lean las transcripciones
> y escuchen los audios, hay cosas muy , pero muy interesantes.
> Respecto de la propuesta para Surinam, de estas transcripciones se desprende
> que el día 14 de abril del 2014 aún no había sido presentada, y el evento
> estaba previsto para el 5 y 6 de Junio del mismo año, es decir no cumplía el
> plazo de ocho semanas previsto en el programa CROPP. Pedí aclaración de
> quien presentaba el pedido, y Dev respondió que él lo haría. Igualmente
> aceptamos con Humberto.
>
> También de estos links y de sus documentos agregados, se desprende que para
> Haití y República Dominicana estaba previsto que viajaran Sebastien Bacholet
> (por su dominio del francés) y yo propuse a Dev. Este dijo que no podría
> viajar por razones de no disponibilidad de tiempo, y se consensuó que iría
> Sylvia Herlen Leite. Luego, como Sebastien no pertenece a nuestra Región,
> el programa CROPP no permitía su asistencia. Busqué a alguien de nuestra
> Región y lo encontré, pero no fue aceptado. Dos integrantes se retiraron del
> grupo de trabajo, y Sylvia propuso que viajara el Presidente de LACRALO,
> como finalmente se definió.
> Respecto del viaje de Dev a ICANN Buenos Aires, el mismo nos solicitó a
> Humberto y a mí la autorización para utilizar una plaza. Al menos yo entendí
> que era una plaza de otro multistakeholder, pero si nos pedía autorización a
> nosotros, se convertía en otra plaza para LACRALO. Y Aceptamos. Si no era de
> LACRALO, no era necesaria nuestra autorización.
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> No voy a volver sobre estos temas, hasta tanto tenga una respuesta del Chair
> de ALAC.
>
> Saludos cordiales
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de
> devtee at gmail.com
> Enviado el: miércoles, 20 de enero de 2016 1:57
> Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Alcance y Compromiso SC
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> Asunto: Re: Alcance y Compromiso SC
> De: devtee at gmail.com
>
> queridos todos
>
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> Sólo para corregir algunas de las inexactitudes en las alegaciones de
> Alberto:
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> - Re: la propuesta CROPP para CROPP FY14 para Suriname, fue enviado a
> Alberto y Humberto y hubo un intercambio de correos electrónicos en este
> propuesta. También se discutió sobre las llamadas de conferencia con
> respecto a la Propuestas Cropp para Haití y República Dominicana.
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> - Re: la propuesta CROPP para Haití, República Dominicana, el CROPP
> propuesta era, de hecho, la primera presentada ante dos viajeros José Arce y
> Javier Pallero para ir a Haití y República Dominicana. José y Javier
> trabajado con Alberto para completar los detalles de la propuesta.
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> Después de Alberto aprobó la propuesta y la propuesta presentada a la
> CROPP RT, Alberto cambió de opinión y quería poner a otra persona viajero
> de Colombia (Philippe Boland) en lugar y cambiar el estructura de las
> propuestas.La primera propuesta fue recordado y tuve de dos llamadas de
> conferencia con Alberto y Humberto. Ver
> https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg
> https://community.icann.org/x/gjjRAg
> La propuesta de Suriname también se discutió en la segunda llamada. Después
> de más discusiones de correo electrónico que aclaran las propuestas, el
> resultado final decidieron por Alberto y Humberto era para dos viajeros,
> Alberto y Sylvia van a Haití y República Dominicana, que fue debidamente
> presentado nuevamente a CROPP RT.
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> Así que para repetir, se consultó a la presidencia y la secretaría de
> LACRALO y sus aprobaciones obtenidas antes de cualquier propuesta Cropp se
> presentaron a la CROPP RT y luego a la ICANN GSE por sus aprobaciones.
>
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> - Yo no asistí ICANN53 debido a la Gran Al-CROPP, asistí ICANN53 debido a
> la estrategia de ALC.
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> Saludos cordiales,
>
>
> Dev Anand Teelucksingh
>
>
>
>
> El Lun, 11 de enero 2016 a las 8:17 AM, <asoto at ibero-americano.org>
> escribió:
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>> Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
>> From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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>> Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in
>> Contact this topic.
>> The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and
> commitment
>> SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within
>> LACRALO and ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it.
>> Repeated explanations do not justify that decision.
>> It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had been
>> Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin
>> previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of
>> Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori despite
>> the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace in
>> our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena
>> more specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly
>> present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was
>> that must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have
>> the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin
>> which requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE
>> ICANN.
>> Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting
>> monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque
>> Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin
>> of the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program
>> CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of
>> this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved
>> LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO
>> CROPP approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one
>> attribution does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last
>> monthly meeting that they did not.
>> Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members
>> LACRALO, understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions.
>> The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in
>> decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in
>> our regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde
>> ALAC, although estintegrado by members of LACRALO.
>> In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the
>> AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21
>> September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he
>> NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO
>> Anand Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO
>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is
>> He has taken an attribution that does not belong.
>> In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are
> inconsistencies
>> such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton Samuels
>> to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in Teelucksingh
>> we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica Republic.Was
>> with such urgency that we had no time to present it to LACRALO and
>> we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not miss a
>> CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting in Buenos
>> Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those
>> travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
>> I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since
>> viajcon a vacancy of the program.
>> By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting
>> avoid future problems, you have to apply well to the directive
>> for that Subcommittee.
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>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>>
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
>> devtee at gmail.com
>> Posted on: Sunday, January 10, 2016 20:36
>> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
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>> Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
>> From: devtee at gmail.com
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>> Dear all
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>> Just to clarify repeatedly:
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>> - The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O
>> SC & E
>> - https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ)
> (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-July/012871.ht
>> ml)
>> and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope
>> SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation,
>> This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO
> (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/0134
>> 80.html).
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>> The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list
>> - Alejandro Pisanty -
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351
>> 3.html
>> - Alberto Soto -
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351
>> 5.html
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>> I will answer those comments
>> -
> Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01355
>> 9.html
>> -
> Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01356
>> 0.html
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>> and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not
>> have no more comments, the strategy was presented in
> https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategic+Pla
>> n
>> and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC
>> to meet that strategy.
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>> One of the activities of the SC O & E is a calendar of events
>> Possible track events at the regional level - the
>> Outreach events calendar LAC ARE
>> http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar
>> If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in
>> disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan
>> bartlett.morgan at gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce at gmail.com
>> This calendar can be updated.
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>> Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares
>> by the objectives of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to
>> join the Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail
>> staff at atlarge.icann.org calls O & E have interpretation
>> espaola given the presence of several people called estn LACRALO.Las
>> open for anyone in At-Large to attend.
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>> Outreach and Engagement SC wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ
>> Outreach and Engagement SC meetings:
>> https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag
>> transcripts of meetings.
>> Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports:
> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an
>> Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
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>> It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large
>> Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the Activities
>> Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups
>> are opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that
>> At-Large activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series
>> LACRALO monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading
>> of policies.
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>> Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications,
>> as representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then
>> Scope SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto
> and
>> Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start
>> CROPP. For instance:
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>> - The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fįtima, and
>> Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re:
>> Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic
>> Dominican Republic and Haiti https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg
>> - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia
>> travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas
>> in a practical proposal that may be made under the
>> Cropp guidelines (using 4 slots 5 trips)
>> - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm
>> CROPP other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the
>> fifth trip space).
>> - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto
>> Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of
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>> stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines.
>> - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp
>> attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires,
>> Argentina
> (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/012382.htm
>> l)
>> in which several people from LACRALO apply.
>> - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco (
>> https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw)
>> LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose
>> Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos
>> Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to
>> ICANN53 attend.
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>> In all these cases, the chair of LACRALO and the Secretariat were see
>> before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and despusa
>> GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
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>> Best regards,
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>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh
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>> The sea, December 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm,
>> <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
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>>> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
>>>
>>> Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC
>>> From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
>>>
>>> In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and Engagement SC,
>>> Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such subcomity Plan
>>> Strategic LACRALO.
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>>> Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna
>>> task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try
>>> capture an organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
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>>> It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and tested
> a
>>> Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on the index of
>>> Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive character, start
>>> Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
>>>
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>>> With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the lowest
>>> index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and Engagement
>>> siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved by
>>> consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the procedure
>>> It is incorrect.
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>>>
>>> In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and commitment
>>> It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach new members
>>> Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo
>>> new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will
>>> working with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy
>>> successfully implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>> Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph:
>>> work with our RALO.
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>>> The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not
>>> applicable, it must do our region.
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>>> At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program CROPP
>>> implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be treated
>>> within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then
>>> CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
>>>
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>>> The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either
>>> You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the
>>> implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within
>>> LACRALO.
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>>> I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start
>>> working in coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
>>>
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>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alberto Soto
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