[lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
devtee at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 04:56:03 UTC 2016
Dear All
Just to correct some of the inaccuracies in Alberto's allegations:
- Re: the CROPP proposal for CROPP FY14 for Suriname, it was sent to
Alberto and Humberto and there was an exchange of emails on this
proposal. It was also discussed on the conference calls regarding the
CROPP proposals for Haiti and Dominican Republic.
- Re: the CROPP proposal for Haiti, Dominican Republic, the CROPP
proposal was in fact first filed with two travellers Jose Arce and
Javier Pallero to go to Haiti and Dominican Republic. Jose and Javier
worked with Alberto to complete the details of the proposal.
After Alberto approved the proposal and the proposal submitted to the
CROPP RT, Alberto changed his mind and wanted to put a different
traveler from Colombia (Philippe Boland) instead and change the
structure of the proposals. The first proposal was recalled and I had
two conference calls with Alberto and Humberto. See
https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg and
https://community.icann.org/x/gjjRAg for the records of these calls.
The Suriname proposal was also discussed on the 2nd call. After more
email discussions clarifying the proposals, the end result decided by
Alberto and Humberto was for two travellers, Alberto and Sylvia going
to Haiti and Dominican Republic which was duly resubmitted to CROPP
RT.
So to repeat, the LACRALO chair and secretariat were consulted and
their approvals obtained before any CROPP proposals were filed to the
CROPP RT and then to ICANN GSE for their approvals.
- I didn't attend ICANN53 due to At-Large CROPP, I attended ICANN53
due to LAC Strategy.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand Teelucksingh
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:17 AM, <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
> From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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> Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in
> Contact this topic.
> The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and commitment
> SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within
> LACRALO and ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it.
> Repeated explanations do not justify that decision.
> It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had been
> Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin
> previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of
> Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori despite
> the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace in
> our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena
> more specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly
> present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was
> that must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have
> the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin
> which requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE
> ICANN.
> Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting
> monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque
> Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin
> of the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program
> CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of
> this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved
> LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO
> CROPP approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one
> attribution does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last
> monthly meeting that they did not.
> Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members
> LACRALO, understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions.
> The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in
> decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in
> our regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde
> ALAC, although estintegrado by members of LACRALO.
> In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the
> AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21
> September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he
> NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO
> Anand Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO
> Dev Anand Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is
> He has taken an attribution that does not belong.
> In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are inconsistencies
> such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton Samuels
> to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in Teelucksingh
> we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica Republic.Was
> with such urgency that we had no time to present it to LACRALO and
> we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not miss a
> CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting in Buenos
> Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those
> travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since
> viajcon a vacancy of the program.
> By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting
> avoid future problems, you have to apply well to the directive
> for that Subcommittee.
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> Best regards
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> Alberto Soto
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> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
> devtee at gmail.com
> Posted on: Sunday, January 10, 2016 20:36
> To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
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> Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
> From: devtee at gmail.com
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> Dear all
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> Just to clarify repeatedly:
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> - The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O
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> and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope
> SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation,
> This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO
> (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/0134
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> The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list
> - Alejandro Pisanty -
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> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351
> 3.html
> - Alberto Soto -
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> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01351
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> I will answer those comments
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> Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01355
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> Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/01356
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> and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not
> have no more comments, the strategy was presented in
> https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategic+Pla
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> and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC
> to meet that strategy.
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> One of the activities of the SC O & E is a calendar of events
> Possible track events at the regional level - the
> Outreach events calendar LAC ARE
> http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar
> If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in
> disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan
> bartlett.morgan at gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce at gmail.com
> This calendar can be updated.
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> Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares
> by the objectives of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to
> join the Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail
> staff at atlarge.icann.org calls O & E have interpretation
> espaola given the presence of several people called estn LACRALO.Las
> open for anyone in At-Large to attend.
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> Outreach and Engagement SC wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ
> Outreach and Engagement SC meetings:
> https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag
> transcripts of meetings.
> Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports:
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> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an
> Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
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> It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large
> Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the Activities
> Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups
> are opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that
> At-Large activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series
> LACRALO monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading
> of policies.
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> Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications,
> as representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then
> Scope SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto and
> Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start
> CROPP. For instance:
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> - The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fįtima, and
> Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re:
> Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic
> Dominican Republic and Haiti https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg
> - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia
> travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas
> in a practical proposal that may be made under the
> Cropp guidelines (using 4 slots 5 trips)
> - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm
> CROPP other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the
> fifth trip space).
> - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto
> Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of \u200b\u200ba
> stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines.
> - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp
> attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires,
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> (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/012382.htm
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> in which several people from LACRALO apply.
> - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco (
> https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw)
> LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose
> Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos
> Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to
> ICANN53 attend.
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> before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and despusa
> GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
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> Best regards,
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>> Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC
>> From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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>> In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and Engagement SC,
>> Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such subcomity Plan
>> Strategic LACRALO.
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>> Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna
>> task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try
>> capture an organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
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>> It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and tested a
>> Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on the index of
>> Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive character, start
>> Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
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>> With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the lowest
>> index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
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>> The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and Engagement
>> siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved by
>> consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the procedure
>> It is incorrect.
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>> In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and commitment
>> It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach new members
>> Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo
>> new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will
>> working with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy
>> successfully implemented.
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>> Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph:
>> work with our RALO.
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>> The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not
>> applicable, it must do our region.
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>> At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program CROPP
>> implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be treated
>> within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then
>> CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
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>> The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either
>> You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the
>> implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within
>> LACRALO.
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>> I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start
>> working in coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
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>> Best regards
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