[lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC

[Alan Greenberg]

Alberto, my apologies. That reply should have 
already been sent. You will have it Wednesday.  Alan



At 16/02/2016 12:35 AM, Alberto Soto wrote:
>Dear Alan, in today's meeting of LACRALO, Dev wuld calls a meeting for
>clarification.
>I had already defined to take no action until we have a reply on this
>matter.
>This was required on 11 January this year.
>It is very important for LACRALO all be fulfilled according to the rules.
>Kind regards
>
>Alberto Soto
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>[mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de Alan
>Greenberg
>Enviado el: jueves, 14 de enero de 2016 3:13
>Para: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
>
>Dear Alberto,
>
>This message was filed directly in my LAC-Discuss folder and I was not aware
>of it until Staff told me about it.
>
>I will investigate and get back to you as soon as possible.
>
>Alan
>
>At 11/01/2016 07:17 AM, asoto at ibero-americano.org wrote:
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> >  Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
> >  From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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> >  Dear Alan, I am forced as President of LACRALO to get in  Contact
> > this topic.
> >  The insistence of the president of a Subcomitde ALAC (Scope and
> > commitment
> >  SC) to make decisions that by law must be taken within  LACRALO and
> > ALS participation of its members, forcing me to it.
> >  Repeated explanations do not justify that decision.
> >  It has been cited comments of Alexander Pisanty YMOS as if they had
> > been  Plan approval generated in that consultation subcomitsin
> > previously the document that already contbamos. Both the opinion of
> > Alejandro as ma, were criticisms of such a document. A posteriori
> > despite  the wrong procedure, as a sign of goodwill and seeking peace
> > in  our region, gave the plan as accepted, despite our tena  more
> > specific details on the passes, according to the list I promptly
> > present, and long before this Strategic Plan.The main detail was  that
> > must be taken into account as a priority, those countries that have
> > the lower index of penetration of Internet, as a way to begin  which
> > requeran greater support and coordinate further action with GSE
> > ICANN.
> >  Pedaclaraciones the President of Subcomiten our last meeting
> > monthly; allno only insistien his mistake, but the confirmque
> > Subcomitse part of that people will take over the implementacin  of
> > the plan, and in addition they were analyzed alternative program
> > CROPP for its implementation by that Subcommittee. As synthesis of
> > this particular issue: first an ALS presents a project is approved
> > LACRALO consensus on leadership and then sends it to LACRALO  CROPP
> > approval to GSE program and beyond. Estn is spewing one  attribution
> > does not correspond, despite being pidipor mail and the last  monthly
> > meeting that they did not.
> >  Insistien also said subcomitestaba formed by members  LACRALO,
> > understanding that it mistakenly convalidaba such actions.
> >  The LACRALO has signed MOU with ICANN, giving us independence in
> > decisions, to be taken within the scope of our region and in  our
> > regulatory scope of discussion, and not within a Subcomitde  ALAC,
> > although estintegrado by members of LACRALO.
> >  In the links who are listed in the mail below, you can see that the
> > AFRALO similar program was approved by the members of AFRALO 21
> > September 2015; the APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; he
> > NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l August 4, 2015; Dev the EURALO  Anand
> > Teelucksingh the 29 th September 2015; and also by LACRALO  Dev Anand
> > Teelucksingh 15 September 2015. At least for LACRALO is  He has taken
> > an attribution that does not belong.
> >  In the mail cited by the Chairman of the subcommittee, there are
> > inconsistencies  such as mail exchange for the proposed Carlton
> > Samuels  to go to Suriname; this one was presented by Dev Anand in
> > Teelucksingh  we held a meeting on the issue of Haity Dominica
> > Republic.Was  with such urgency that we had no time to present it to
> > LACRALO and  we define exceptionally Humberto in that meeting to not
> > miss a  CROPP trip. In the previous meeting at the last ICANN meeting
> > in Buenos  Aires, cited we agree and published the names of those
> > travel to that meeting. The President of CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> > I publicdichos names, but the list omitien his own, since  viajcon a
> > vacancy of the program.
> >  By safeguarding our decisions, our region, and waiting  avoid future
> > problems, you have to apply well to the directive  for that
> > Subcommittee.
> >
> >
> >  Best regards
> >
> >
> >  Alberto Soto
> >
> >
> >  -----Original message-----
> >  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of
> > devtee at gmail.com  Posted on: Sunday, January 10, 2016 20:36
> >  To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC
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> >  [[Translated text (en -> en) -]]
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> >  Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC
> >  From: devtee at gmail.com
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> >  Dear all
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> >  Just to clarify repeatedly:
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> >  - The call for people to join the commitment divulgaciny SC (O  SC
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> >  -  https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ)
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> >(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-July/0128
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> >  and several people in LACRALO answered the call. The LACRALO Scope
> >  SC confirmed the commitment and ideas to the strategy, continuation,
> >  This strategy published for comment a list of LACRALO
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> >(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September
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> >  80.html).
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> >  The Nicaraguan comments received were LACRALO list
> >  - Alejandro Pisanty -
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> >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
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> >  3.html
> >  - Alberto Soto -
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> >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
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> >  I will answer those comments
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> >Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
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> >  9.html
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> >Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-September/
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> >  and the strategy updated based on comments received. By not  have no
> > more comments, the strategy was presented in
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> >https://community.icann.org/display/croppfy16/LACRALO+Outreach+Strategi
> >c+Pla
> >  n
> >  and members of ALC in divulgaciny commitment trying estn SC
> >  to meet that strategy.
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> >  One of the activities of the SC O & E is a calendar of events
> > Possible track events at the regional level - the  Outreach events
> > calendar LAC ARE  http://bitly.com/LAC-Outreach-Calendar
> >  If you are aware of the possible events that could be possible in
> > disclosure events, please suggest that Bartlett Morgan
> > bartlett.morgan at gmail.com or what JosArce josefranciscoarce at gmail.com
> > This calendar can be updated.
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> >  Anyone in LACRALO ALS any representative who cares  by the objectives
> > of Outreach and Engagement SC are more than welcome to  join the
> > Outreach and Engagement SC sending an e-mail  staff at atlarge.icann.org
> > calls O & E have interpretation  espaola given the presence of
> > several people called estn LACRALO.Las  open for anyone in At-Large to
> > attend.
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> >  Outreach and Engagement SC wiki:
> > https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ
> >  Outreach and Engagement SC meetings:
> >  https://community.icann.org/x/2Ig3Ag
> >  transcripts of meetings.
> >  Outreach and Engagement SC Monthly reports:
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> >https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outrea
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> >  Engagement d + + + Monthly Reports
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> >  It is unfortunate that people not following the estn LACRALO At-Large
> > Working Group activities and therefore do not understand the
> > Activities  Working Group. Given that At-Large Working Groups  are
> > opportunities to join At-Large, I strongly suggest that  At-Large
> > activities of the Working Group is an agenda item of series  LACRALO
> > monthly calls in a similar manner to the Upgrading  of policies.
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> >  Finally, I only to point out regarding Cropp applications,  as
> > representative CROPP Review Team and as a member of the then  Scope
> > SC, have worked with the Secretariat and chair THIN (Alberto Soto and
> > Humberto Carrasco) and other representatives of LACRALO from the start
> > CROPP. For instance:
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> >  - The conference call with Alberto, Sylvia, Humberto, Len, Fátima,
> > and  Juan Rojas (like representative LACRALO CROPP) on April 9, 2014 re:
> >  Ideas for the trip Alberto Soto and Sylvia to go Republic  Dominican
> > Republic and Haiti  https://community.icann.org/x/bDbRAg
> >  - The numerous electronic mails between Alberto Soto, Humberto Sylvia
> > travel to the Dominican Republic and Haita from the vague ideas  in a
> > practical proposal that may be made under the  Cropp guidelines (using
> > 4 slots 5 trips)
> >  - The email messages with Alberto and Humberto to confirm  CROPP
> > other Carlton Samuels proposal to go to Suriname (using the  fifth
> > trip space).
> >  - The numerous electronic mails between the proposal and Alberto Soto
> > Alfonso Acosta Diego Bastidas to go to Cuba to make the idea of
> > \u200b\u200ba  stumble on a practice that cumplicon CROPP guidelines.
> >  - LACRALO notified of the possibility of using the proposals to Cropp
> > attend meetings of ICANN F2F ICANN53 in Buenos Aires,  Argentina
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> >(Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2015-May/01238
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> >  in which several people from LACRALO apply.
> >  - Have a call with Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco (
> >  https://community.icann.org/x/lok0Aw)
> >  LACRALO applications for Alberto Soto and Humberto Carrasco choose
> >  Cropp proposals (which was to be sent Sergio Salinas Porto, Jos
> >  Salgueiro and Carlton Samuels) to the RT CROPP for travelers to
> >  ICANN53 attend.
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> >  In all these cases, the chair of LACRALO and the Secretariat were see
> > before the applications were submitted to the ICANN CROPP RT and
> > despusa  GSE for their approvals. This has not changed.
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> >  Best regards,
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> >  Dev Anand Teelucksingh
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> >  The sea, December 22, 2015 at 4:05 pm, <asoto at ibero-americano.org>
> >wrote:
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> > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> > >
> > >  Subject: Outreach and Engagement SC
> > >  From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
> > >
> > >  In the last monthly meeting the Chair of the Outreach and
> > > Engagement SC,  Anand Teelucksingh, explained the workings of such
> > > subcomity Plan  Strategic LACRALO.
> > >
> > >
> > >  Before that, one of our ALAC Members consultporque me recibiuna
> > > task of Dev: take care of a particular country to try  capture an
> > > organization for subsequent certification as ALS. Le
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> > >  It is the second time I make this comment. Tenamos generated and
> > > tested a  Similar plan, but added an order of countries, based on
> > > the index of  Internet penetration. That is, work with an inclusive
> > > character, start  Indexes with more low passes and I aslo did.
> > >
> > >
> > >  With this Plan incorporla current ALS Haiti, the country with the
> > > lowest  index in our region. And also ISOC Dominican Republic.
> > >
> > >
> > >  The Strategic Plan of LACRALO generated by the Outreach and
> > > Engagement  siguiel not normally trmite of any plan to be approved
> > > by  consensus. And this does not mean that it is correct, but the
> > > procedure  It is incorrect.
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> > >  In addition: The goal of the ALAC Subcomisin on extension and
> > > commitment  It is developing both a strategy for At-Large to reach
> > > new members  Potential community outreach, involve members ascomo
> > > new and existing. Once this strategy is developed, it will  working
> > > with its members, the ALAC and RALO to ensure the strategy
> > > successfully implemented.
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> > >  Estdesarrollada strategy, but it has not fulfilled the last paragraph:
> > >  work with our RALO.
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> > >  The same subcomitestrealizando the implementacin, which is not
> > > applicable, it must do our region.
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> > >
> > >  At some point you asignarviajes by continuing with this program
> > > CROPP  implementacin. This procedure is incorrect, it is to be
> > > treated  within our region.ALS first, then approved by LACRALO, then
> > > CROPP the Commission of the GSE program and then.
> > >
> > >
> > >  The fact that several members of LACRALO subcomittenga; and either
> > > You can enroll at any time, it does not provide authority for the
> > > implementacin execution of the program, which must be made within
> > > LACRALO.
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> > >
> > >  I ask Dev to make the appropriate changes, and start  working in
> > > coordination with the leadership of LACRALO.
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> > >  Best regards
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> > >  Alberto Soto
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