[lac-discuss-en] VOTE NOTICE: VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 2015 LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC

Thu Sep 10 12:22:26 UTC 2015

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 Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE 2015 LACRALO ALAC / 2015 REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE FOR LACRALO ALAC 
 From: hcarrascob at gmail.com

 Lord Samuels, 

 To clarify an our position, we want to explain the nature of the 
 which is the point of order. 

 Rules of Procedure of the UNGA, in particular, Article 79 
 ANNEX IV (a) of the Rules of the General Assembly, gives a concept of the 
 that is a point of order: 

 79. ComitEspecial recommends to the General Assembly the adoption 
 DESCRIPTION following concept as points of order 
 [Para. 229]: 

 &quot;* _Fundamentalmente A question of order is a targeted intervention 
 the President requesting him to make use of specific attribution 
 inherent in his office or specifically conferred on him reglamento_ *.
 You can, for example, relate to how to direct the debate, 
 law enforcement, the enforcement of regulations or the way 
 in which presiding officers exercise the powers conferred on them by 
 regulation. Under a matter of order, a representative may 
 ask the President to apply a certain article of the regulation 
 or challenge the way in which the officer applies the article. For the 
 Therefore, the representatives may, within the scope of the regulation, 
 point out to the President's attention infringements or applications 
 incorrect's rules by other representatives or by self 
 President. A question of order has precedence over any other 
 matter, including procedural motions (Articles 73 [114] 
 [Article 71 [113] of these rules.] And 79 [120] [Article 77 
 [119] of these rules.]). 

 &quot;Points of order raised under Article 73 [114] 
 entraan matters requiring a decision by the President, with sujecina 
 You apelacin possible.* _The Differ, therefore motions 
 procedure to treat artculos_ * 76 [117] [Article 74 
 [116] of these rules.] To 79 [120] [Rule 77 [119] of 
 this regulation.], which can be decided only by respect votaciny 
 which can be treated at the same time more than a motion, which 
 order of precedence established in Article 79 [120] [Rule 77 
 [119] of these rules.]. * _The Also differ orders 
 informacino aclaraciny of the comments referred to 
 material arrangements (seating, interpretation system, 
 room temperature), documents, translations, etc., that while 
 may have to be dealt President, they do not require a decision 
 Formal hand. However, in accordance with established practice 
 the United Nations, a representative who has intention to present 
 a motion of procedure or request informacino aclaracin with 
 often raises a &quot;question of order&quot; to obtain the use of 
 word.This use, which is based on practices reasons, should not 
 confused with the raising of points of order under 
 Article 73 [114] ._ * 

 If your petition is reviewed, it President / is not directed to 
 ask you to make use of some inherent attribution charge 
 or that specifically confers regulations / if not requesting 
 / That the General Assembly demonstrates its confidence in the leaders faltade 
 LACRALO and vote on estamocin. / 

 In simple terms, what you. Says that is a point of order, 
 reality is not. It is therefore not possible to give such treatment .// 

 Cheers 

 On 10/09/2015 at 3:41, carlton.samuels at gmail.com wrote: 
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>
>   Asunto: Re: AVISO VOTO: 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE LACRALO ALAC / 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE A LA LACRALO ALAC
>   De: carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>
>   Humberto:
>   Con el mayor de la paciencia, te equivocas. De nuevo.
>
>
>   Se recomienda leer el movimiento de nuevo a continuación, consulte la Regla de Procedimiento
>   de cerca. Regla 18 contiene la autoridad y orientación para la acción.
>
>
>   La moción fue programado para una Asamblea General. La cuestión relativa al
>   votar y distribución de credenciales a los miembros lo hizo tan.
>
>
>   El voto es la cuestión de decisión.
>
>
>   Todas las razones para el movimiento se concatenan; una asamblea ilegal, un
>   fracaso del proceso, etc. El voto es la cuestión objeto de debate.
>
>
>   Si usted no entiende la razón de no invocar la Regla 8, puedo explicar
>   a usted.
>
>
>   Redacté las Reglas originales de Procedimiento y mantengo el competente
>   la autoridad.
>
>
>   Ritz-Carlton Samuels
>
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>
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>
>
>   El Miércoles, 09 de septiembre 2015 a las 5:32 de la tarde, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob at gmail.com>
>   escribió:
>
>
>> Dear Jacqueline,
>>
>>
>>
>> By this email we respond to your request.
>>
>>
>>
>> Overall, we estimate that we cannot suspend the election for the following
>> reasons:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. The voting process began on Thursday, September 3, 2015, and runs until
>> Thursday, September 10, 2015 until 23:00 hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. The motion of Mr. Samuels was presented on Friday, September 4, 2015.
>>
>>
>>
>> In his email, Mr. Samuels raised a Point of Order and offered a motion of
>> NO CONFIDENCE in the LACRALO leadership.
>>
>> He pointed out some arguments to justify his action and then he ended
>> with:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Resolved:
>>
>>
>>
>> That the general assembly demonstrate its lack of confidence in the
>> LACRALO leadership and vote on this motion."
>>
>>
>>
>> Thus, this paragraph says nothing about any suspension.
>>
>>
>> 3. On 5 September, we informed to Mr Samuels that we requested an official
>> translation to Spanish of his motion to be sent to the LACRALO's Spanish
>> list.
>>
>> 4. Subsequently, the 7th of September 2015 Alberto Soto informed that he
>> had asked for legal advice from ICANNâ€™s legal staff regarding this motion
>> of censure.
>>
>> 5. The RoP in Articles 8.1 and 8.2 states the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> 8.1 During a discussion, any delegate may raise a point of order; such a
>> point of order shall be immediately decided upon by the presiding officer.
>>
>>
>>
>> 8.2 An appeal may be made against the ruling of the presiding officer.
>> Such an appeal shall be put to the vote immediately and the presiding
>> officer's ruling shall stand, unless overruled by a simple majority of
>> the ALS present and voting.
>>
>> These rules are silent regarding any suspension. Neither there has been
>> any appeal. In any case, an appeal did not suspend the current vote.
>>
>> 6. There are articles relating to the suspension in Rule 9 that provides:
>>
>>
>>
>> Rule 9 - Procedural Motions
>>
>> 9.1    During a discussion, any delegate may move the suspension or
>> adjournment of the meeting or the adjournment or closure of the debate.
>>
>> 9.2   Such a motion shall be put to the vote immediately. Subject to Rule
>> 8.1, such motions shall have precedence in the following order over all
>> other proposals or motions before the meeting:
>>
>> (a)  Suspension of the meeting;
>>
>> (b)  Adjournment of the meeting;
>>
>> (c)  Adjournment of the debate on the question under discussion;
>>
>> (d)  Closure of the debate on the question under discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>> 7. - Finally, with regard to the arguments and accusations of Mr. Samuels,
>> they will be answered once the official translation into Spanish is sent to
>> the LACRALO's Spanish list.
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> Alberto Soto
>> Humberto Carrasco
>>
>>
>> El 09/09/2015 a las 15:39, Jacqueline Morris escribiÃ³:
>>
>> Hi Humberto
>> I'm confused - there was a motion on the table from Carlton - the motion
>> of No Confidence. According to the RoP, this motion needs to be debated and
>> voted BEFORE the vote on ALAC rep can continue (it takes precedence). This
>> hasn't been done, so how can the vote on ALAC rep be ending tomorrow?
>> Or was there a vote on the motion and I missed it?
>>
>> I am particularly concerned given the number of procedural mistakes that
>> seem to have occurred recently. We don't want more issues with this vote.
>>
>> Jacqueline A. Morris
>> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
>> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>>
>> 2015-09-09 9:18 GMT-04:00 <hcarrascob at gmail.com>:
>>
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>>>
>>>   Subject: Re: VOTE NOTICE: 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE LACRALO ALAC /
>>> 2015 VOTE FOR REPRESENTATIVE TO THE LACRALO ALAC
>>>   From: hcarrascob at gmail.com
>>>
>>>   Dear,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Do not forget that within Voting ends tomorrow Thursday 10
>>>   September 2015 at 23:00 UTC.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   The 04/09/2015 at 0:00, staff at atlarge.icann.org wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>    Asunto: VOTO ANUNCIO: 2015 VOTO PARA LACRALO ALAC REPRESENTANTE /
>>> 2015 VOTO PARA REPRESENTANTE DE LACRALO ANTE EL ALAC
>>>>    De: staff at atlarge.icann.org
>>>>
>>>>    [ES]
>>>>    Queridos todos,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    LACRALOs Presidencia y SecretarÃa gustarÃa anunciar el inicio de la
>>> votaciÃ³n
>>>>    al Representante LACRALO ALAC para el perÃodo de dos aÃ±os a partir de
>>> las
>>>>    Al final de la reuniÃ³n de DublÃn ICANN en octubre de 2015. Esta
>>> encuesta estarÃ¡ abierta
>>>>    desde jueves 03 septiembre 2015 hasta Jueves 10 de septiembre 2015 a
>>> las 23:00 UTC.
>>>>
>>>>    ***
>>>>    PREGUNTA: Â¿A quiÃ©n apoyas a convertirse en el ALAC Representante
>>> LACRALO para
>>>>    el perÃodo de dos aÃ±os a partir de finales de la reuniÃ³n de la ICANN
>>> en DublÃn
>>>>    10 2015? Por favor, seleccionar un candidato de la lista de abajo
>>> (que se enumeran
>>>>    por orden alfabÃ©tico del nombre de la familia) o abstenerse:
>>>>    * Harold Arcos
>>>>    * Juan Manuel Rojas
>>>>    * Abstenerse
>>>>    ***
>>>>    InformaciÃ³n adicional se puede encontrar en la pÃ¡gina de elecciones
>>> Wiki:
>>>>    https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    ==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    [ES]
>>>>    Hola a todos,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    El Presidente y secretario de LACRALOs quisieran anunciar el inicio
>>> del
>>>>    por voto pÃ¡rrafo Elegir al Representante de LACRALO ante el ALAC
>>> Representante
>>>>    EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Empezando al final de de la reunin de Dubln en
>>> Octubre
>>>>    del 2015. La votacin estarabierta desde el Lunes 03 de Setiembre 2015
>>> al
>>>>    Viernes 10 de Setiembre 2015 a las 23:00 UTC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    ***
>>>>    PREGUNTA: A quien Elige Usted Para Ser Representante del LACRALO ante
>>> el
>>>>    ALAC POR EL PERIODO DE 2 aos Comenzando en la reuniÃ³n de la ICANN en
>>> Octubre
>>>>    del 2015? Por favor ELIJA UN Candidato de la Lista Abajo (en Orden
>>>>    alfabtico) o abstngase:
>>>>    * Harold Arcos
>>>>    * Juan Manuel Rojas
>>>>    * Abstencin
>>>>    ***
>>>>    Informacin Adicional Se Puede Encontrar En La pgina WIKI:
>>>>    https://community.icann.org/x/moAQAw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Saludos,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>>>>    Peregrine y Terri Agnew
>>>>    El personal de ICANN polÃtica en apoyo de ALAC
>>>>    E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
>>>>    Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann &lt;
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>>>>    AtLarge &lt;  https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>
>>>>    Twitter: @ &lt;  https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
>>>>    &lt;  https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
>>>>
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