[lac-discuss-en] Your response to member TTCS - Trinidad and Tobago - Dev Anand Teelucksingh

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 Subject: Re: Your response to member TTCS - Trinidad and Tobago - Dev Anand Teelucksingh 
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 Lord Carlton, Humberto contestun only received strong offense. 
 The comment period cerrel October 8 at 2300 UTC. 


 Cheers 


 Alberto Soto 


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 Subject: Your response to member TTCS - Trinidad and Tobago - Dev Anand 
 Teelucksingh 
 From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com


 Humberto: 
 Dev hope will respond in due course, but I'm very worried that 
 rather than admit error and change, which has doubled down on 
 Asmismo methods to break free of the responsibility for this debacle last 
 LACRALO. 




 Show  https://community.icann.org/x/C5lYAw 




 In another context, purely on leadership style, that reminds me 
 Pinochet's approach to leadership, a style that will 
 family. 




 First, it is manifestly corrupt when you choose to validate 
 its action privileged and linked to the response of the staff jurdico 
 ICANN. 
 They will not get a "opinin jurdica" giving by. Themselves 
 They declare that they are not competent to answer the question to them. 




 Without access to cuestin [s] is set to ICANN staff jurdico, mud 
 evidence of four (4) movements estposando 
 supposedly to solve my move tells me that probably as 
 He confused as you put into the circulation in this list. 




 First, you can not offer new proposals for four brands 
 as amendments to one. That is corruption under color of ignorance and 
 clear evidence of violence against the Rules of Procedure 
 LACRALO, the rules of order for democratic procedures, razny 
 the democratic governance. 




 Secondly, this: 
 "If censorship mocin is reviewed, it can be seen that 
 request that the President '* is not directed to use pidindole 
 sb power inherent in his office or specifically gives him the rules 
 * procedure 'but ask' * That the General Assembly demonstrate its 
 lack of confidence in the leadership ballot LACRALO and this mocin * 
 '".




 This conception is not only wrong. And who are here exhibicin 
 It seems to be the notion of ignorance as a virtue. 




 Here we go nuevo.Para sernecesario you do this mental change 
 thinking about the physical world to the virtual world think. I easily 
 ascomo accept the case of working of policies, some of 
 we are 
 better at this than others. Confo they are able to follow. 




 The first thing that must be understood and accepted is that when a meeting 


 LACRALO, virtual or face to face, it is in session, there is a President 
 officer. 




 A meeting LACRALO ARE session when the Secretariat notified. Is 
 meeting was a special meeting and I hate the monthly teleconference 
 appointment. It was a general meeting. 




 Asking the vote of all members and the issuance of credentials 
 ALL 
 members is your indication that a general meeting of LACRALO ARE 
 session. In this case, the big difference is that it is not face to face 
 as, for example, who are Costa Rica. It is a general assembly 
 virtual. 




 Now let's identify the presiding officer in the General Assembly 
 virtual. 




 Think back now for a little in the process that the general face 
 expensive 
 Costa Rica.Esperamos mounting vendrde aquen light on. 




 Remember the all process. JosArce was the presiding officer. T 
 you can 
 literally see it in action. It was a legal duty allejecutando 
 LACRALO President, what you like to refer to as "the 
 President. "Those 
 duties are defined in the Rule of Procedure. 




 Change your mind now to virtual general assembly. That assembly is 
 convened by the Secretariat. He was called to decide a motion as 
 in front 
 by the Secretariat. Once the set is called and although it can not be 
 "See" l, there is a presiding officer in the chair. Nevertheless 
 that officer 
 It is easily identified. It's the person who asked the question in the 
 motion 
 that was the basis for calling the meeting. That is, the cuestin that 
 we are 
 It supposed to answer for the vote. 




 Back to Personal message announcing the vote. You darcuenta of 
 than 
 Alberto Soto movement cuestin levantel and put in the ballot. 
 Qu 
 is this a coincidence!As it happens, one of Alberto Soto volvitbNL> as 
 President of LACRALO ago sb tiempo.Dado the term has not expired 
 and this assembly will not informde Otherwise, it is reasonable to assume 
 that same Alberto Soto remains President of LACARLO. 




 Under the Rule of Procedure, that person, one Alberto Soto, 
 YOU SPECIFIC has rights. 
 He is the presiding officer in this virtual general assembly. On top of 
 their legal obligations as president, l have the duty of care. 
 One 
 this duty is to take care of managing the meeting of a democratic society 
 means for democrticos organization. 




 You mean the UN Rules of Procedure, but 
 it does not seem that 
 WHO fully appreciate its important substance, its meaning in the 
 democratic context. 




 Now let's go to the management of a motion at the General Assembly 
 They are invoking the same rules. 




 ARE assembly session. There is a motion on the floor that was placed 
 by LACRALO President and President. The motion asks a question 
 for which the vote will be used to decide the answer. 




 Members have seven (7) calendar das before the virtual ballot 
 estcerrada. 
 These days can be used to virtually discuss the motion. 




 Under the Rules of Order of the General Assembly, a question 
 concerning movements 
 Low consideracin can raise a point of not getting this order.You 


 concept correct. My movement is not special. 




 The motions are classified as procedural or non-procedural. My 
 proposal was 
 procedural. 




 The mocin order at a general meeting face to face is just a matter 
 of a 
 increase member at his feet, be recognized by the President 
 - I mean, the President believes that, literally, the member with their 
 own 
 eyes - the right of Member to speak is recognized by the President 
 and given the floor to address the assembly. 




 Switch to the virtual general assembly. 




 In this context, we raise a question of order by electronic means, 
 on this occasion, 
 an electronic mail. Considering what the trend sde 
 plead ignorance, my e-mail 
 scathingly started with the term 'his is a point of order 
 "I .Tambin 
 Be sure to indicate the reason behind my question of order in a 
 motion; I was 
 directly related to the motion before the meeting then, 
 that is the vote 
 to choose and to set his LACRALO Representative to ALAC.




 My movement detallque the call of the election was null and void 
 effect since a 
 representative in the person of the spear Hinds, Guyana DevNet member, 


 he was selected. Validmi informing the assembly mocina 
 the assembly can not appoint another representative when it was 
 nominated and selected. 




 It is procedural and estcuestionando the process by which the proposal 
 from 
 the choice is colocdelante Assembly by the President. 




 Any choice that aims to choose someone other than Lance Hinds, 
 whose 
 nomination was immaculate and without deterioration and never herself nega 
 Currently, it is contrary to the rules and, therefore, illegal. This action does not 
 is but 
 other event as far corruption in the LACRALO. And you sir, 
 You can not reasonably deny their active collusion. 




 Under the rules of order at meetings democrticas, my question of 
 order must be 
 processed \\ u200b \\ u200bANTES the post to the Assembly by the President. That 


 mocin will be asking their illegal vote. My point of order 
 Contain a motion calling for a vote of no confidence under 
 incompetence of leadership for the cause. This request is based on 
 outlining the charges, the living testimony of being illegal vote. 




 The mocin was recognized by the President. And we can only 
 We assume that act out the instructions of the presiding officer when 
 Asked 
 for official translation. 




 If this is the opposite, aquesttu opportunity to declare. Because if 
 this is 
 an operation of pcaro and on top of acting outside the 
 rules, which will have 
 It also undermined the President in the exercise of their functions. 




 In other words, it will have taken office held by 
 President of 
 LACRALO and powers exercised that are not theirs to exercise. Is 
 say, a stroke, a coup. 




 In doing so, it has violated the Rules of Procedure of LACRALO, 
 certainly this time without violence, undermines the office of the Presidency 
 LACRALO LACRALO President and placed in a position of 
 I descrdito. 




 If this is what sucedisin protest presiding officer, the 
 President of LACRALO could then reasonably be accused of 
 leaving office 
 and contribute to their own descrdito. 




 In any case, the result is a corrupt organization, bribed in 
 East 
 State for acts of corruption. 




 When the ballot is closed and the count is done and unless specified 
 otherwise, 
 the General Assembly ends. 




 Asque trying to lift the four (4) proposals as amendments to my 
 one movement 
 Dev is like sealun attempt to thwart my single movement. But more 
 important LACRALO general assembly session ARE NOT permanent. Y 
 because the General Assembly is not perpetual, your answer is not too 
 late and sadly misplaced. But, by definition, a practical 
 corrupt. 




 Suppose now accept what is a movement and the context in 
 which mocin 
 planteestaramos is required to judge this, their behavior, as 
 incorrigible. 




 The accusation of corruption is based. 




 Kindly, 
 Ritz-Carlton Samuels 




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