[lac-discuss-en] On civil society and end user

[asoto at ibero-americano.org]

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 Subject: On civil society and end user 
 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Dear, I just incorporate this information in the wiki. 
 https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/SOCIEDAD+CIVIL+-+CIVIL+SOCIETY 






 Although we do not agrupemos, some people do in ICANN. Perhaps 
 deberamos discuss where we stand now, if you really user 
 this does not end well represented. And as the transition estarluego 
 IANA. 


 I remember something that citvarias times in various meetings, and LACRALO 
 meettings many in ALAC and ICANN. When the CEO of ICANN was 
 the conformation of the ICG report, Sebastien word and Bacholet pidila 
 said end users were not represented. The CEO will contesttbNL> ermos all end users. And I say no, that is not the asdesde 
 viewpoint of safeguarding the interests of the end user.


 The president, a legislature, a minister, a service provider 
 Internet, the president of a chamber to which they belong, and we can continue 
 They naming, they are end users. But when making decisions that affect 
 end users in decision MSWI qudireccin? By interests 
 its industry or to the interests of the end user? 


 As quedarel end user after the IANA transition? Deberamos see 
 Model community as sole member explicLen us a 
 monthly meeting. Efforts were being made in the Working Group Intercommunity 
 (CCWG) on Liability. If someone wants to remember, that link 
 Short of submission:  https://goo.gl/XWcpNc 


 I ask you please to overturn their views on the wiki for all 
 we can follow up. 


 Best regards 






 Alberto Soto 










 Here is a summary: 


 Recommendation 5 ATLAS II


 ICANN should consider how best to ensure that users 
 finals will be held in the center of the process of accountability in 
 all aspects relating to the transition of administration of the 
 IANA function. 


 Recipients 


 ICANN Board; ICANN Staff; ICANN Community 


 Assigned to: 


 ICANN IANA Transition & Accountability 


 Summary so far 


 Could feed into ICANN accountability process and the work of At-Large IANA 
 WG issues. 


 09 Sep 2015: 


 It is a Very Important recommendation. Are we pushing enough to Strengthen 
 the position of the end users (this Concerns the question of civil society 
 and the role of ALAC / At-Large)? It Seems That We Have not pushed 
 CCWG-Accountability to fully address questions and Those Consider the 
 position of end users. 


 16 Sep 2015: 


 The ALAC / At-Large Have Been Advocating for end users to balance the power of 
 other interested parties, and will continue to do so.


 We are not in the position to say That the end user rights are more 
 Important than other rights. 


 Should the ALAC advocate That the end users' trump other Concerns Concerns? 
 Yes, in some cases, users Should Take dominance; but not all the time. 


 The needs of users May not be so much different from the needs of other 
 parties. For example, IANA stewardship Regarding transition, there is almost 
 100% overlap Between the interests of registries and the interests of users 
 in terms of the operational aspect of IANA functions. 


 Shall Assignees Evaluate the implementation of pending recommendation esta 
 the outcome (ie end report) of the CCWG-Accountability. 


 22 Sep 2015: 


 We can not say That the recommendation has Already Been Implemented. 


 End users are at the heart of the accountability process, but Have Limited 
 knowledge and influence in the process. 






 Some parts of the discussions at some Working Group: 










 I think with this we will have many comments. The model precisely 
 It requires balancing the concerns or interests. there is no doubt that 
 users are more dominant than others. Between users estn 
 many parts of the community and, to be frank, many of these issues 
 I do not think that the views of end-users are distinct from the 
 visions of the other parties. 


 This whole issue of IANA, the standards we are looking for, there seems to be 
 the same overlay of interests with the interests records 
 users. Both want the root area and we want to work 
 make the necessary changes to it. There are not necessarily many 
 differences between them in operational terms. 


 We are in a position the same as we are with the GNSO? All of these 
 things have to be balanced. Hear someone say before the 
 esttotalmente not balanced together sometimes. The model of the community, 
 CCWG have the opportunity to achieve this balance? 


 We are not in position to assert our rights more than others.He 
 ARE the center of public interest interest of ICANN. I think this is 
 a work in progress. 


 Leesto When I first gave me the impresino it may be that the 
 with this group has the impression of being an indication of a job does not 
 ICANN completely. We are always thinking about the user's interests and 
 acestamos pidindole the board that a balance is achieved between the 
 existing interests. I think that's something we're already doing that and 
 It has been done. 






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