[lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] FW: CALL FOR COMMENTS: At-Large Review Working Party Draft Charter

Aida Noblia aidanoblia at gmail.com
Fri Nov 27 19:16:38 UTC 2015


Carlos no sabía de la experiencia pero estoy de acuerdo con más razón que
eso debe reflejarse en algún documento. Supongo que en este que se está
analizando ahora podría caber alguna cláusula al respecto.

Si al grupo de trabajo la inquietud si se está de acuerdo en eso.

Besos



El 27 de noviembre de 2015, 11:36, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>
escribió:

> Gracias por tus comentarios Aida,
>
> en el GNSO council tuvimos una MUY MALA experiencia con unos expertos
> externos (Westland) que fueron “generosamente" contratados para hacer un
> estudio cuyo  resultado ha sido de muy baja aceptación. Tenemos que evitar
> a toda costa que sea una decisión exclusiva del Staff y comentarios como
> los tuyos DEBEN REFLEJARSE EXPLICITAMENTE EN LOS TERMINOS DE REFERENCIA
> (Charter & RFP).
>
> Saludos
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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> On Nov 27, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Aida Noblia <aidanoblia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Comparto las dos propuestas de Vanda en cuanto a que el Experto
> Independiente debe tener un conocimiento de las vivencias en los diferentes
> países  y no solo un conocimiento teórico .  Sin conocer el contexto
> interno y la idiosincracia de las personas en cada país le será muy difícil
> tener idea clara del significado real de ciertos hechos,  acciones  e
> incluso palabras, ya que el mismo lenguaje tiene a veces expresiones o
> palabras que pueden no ser comprendidas en su contexto.
> También comparto lo dicho respecto a que es necesaria la experiencia en
> ICANN, que es un Organismo bastante complejo y requiere tiempo y dedicación
> para conocerlo.
>
>  Me preocupa la pregunta de Carlos,  no se me ocurre respuesta y me parece
> una pregunta esencial.
>
> El hecho de que los expertos reúnan las condiciones adecuadas para su
> cargo va a depender de lo que se establezca como requisitos necesarios
>  para su nombramiento y también de los criterios y métodos de designación
> que tengan las personas que lo designan.
>
>
> Saludos a todos.
>
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> 2015-11-25 20:03 GMT-03:00 Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>:
>
>> Gracias Vanda,
>>
>> es un punto muy importante. De igual manera me gustaría saber QUIEN
>> escoge al experto.
>>
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>>
>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>> ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>> skype carlos.raulg
>> +506 8837 7176  (New  Phone number!!!!)
>> ________
>> Apartado 1571-1000
>> COSTA RICA
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>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Estimados colegas
>>>
>>>  Como parte de esto grupo de trabajo les pido que miren los puntos
>>> levantados iniciales para la escoja de la organización que deberá ser
>>> contractada como expert. Yo personalmente he hecho algunos comentarios que
>>> están en la wiki acerca de:
>>>
>>>    1. el punto de diversidad  que para mi  es necesario que los
>>>    expertos contrastados tengan vivencia en diversos países no solo clientes
>>>    en estos países  y
>>>    2. La experiencia en ICANN. A mi lo relevante es que tipo de
>>>    experiencia en ICANN – participar en el mercado no es necesariamente lo
>>>    recomendado, tampoco experiencia en la comunidad de propiedad intelectual…
>>>    para mi debía tener experiencia como participante en la comunidad de
>>>    preferencia como simples atendente para una vision más amplia de todo el
>>>    complejo de ICANN
>>>
>>> Si tienen puntos que les parezcan relevantes, agradezco sus comentarios,
>>> en nuestra lista o en la WIKI.
>>>  Abrazos
>>> *Vanda Scartezini*
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>>> *So**rry for any typos. *
>>>
>>>
>>> From: <lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
>>> ICANN Staff
>>> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 5:43 PM
>>> To: LACRALO list
>>> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] CALL FOR COMMENTS: At-Large Review Working
>>> Party Draft Charter
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The At-Large Review Working Party is calling for comments across the
>>> At-Large Community for its Draft Charter:
>>> https://community.icann.org/x/CcRYAw. To provide your input, please log
>>> in to Confluence wiki and submit it on that page using the comment function
>>> by December 9, 2015 at 23:59 UTC. See the At-Large Review background
>>> information below.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> ICANN Bylaws require independent reviews of its organisationsal
>>> effectiveness to reinforce its various accountability mechanisms to the
>>> community. The first review of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC)
>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/NxAnAw> was held from 2008 to 2012. The
>>> focus of that review was on ALAC itself because the Regional At-Large
>>> Organisations (RALOs) and their At-Large Structures (ALSs) were newly
>>> established and it would have been inappropriate to review them at that
>>> time.
>>>
>>> The current At-Large Review <https://community.icann.org/x/Y5MQAw> is
>>> underway. The focus of this Review is to examine organizational
>>> effectiveness of the At-Large community, with the focus on the five RALOs
>>> and the nearly 200 ALSs. This review is scheduled to begin approximately in
>>> April 2016 and be carried out by an Independent Examiner. Involvement of
>>> the At-Large community as well as input and participation from the broader
>>> community are important components of this review process.
>>>
>>> As discussed in ALAC Meetings, the Organizational Effectiveness
>>> Committee of the Board
>>> <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/organizational-effectiveness-committee-2014-03-21-en> has
>>> requested that an At-Large Review Working Party
>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/aZMQAw> be assembled to function as a
>>> liaison between the ALAC/At-Large community, the Independent Examiner and
>>> the Organizational Effectiveness Committee of the Board to provide input on
>>> review criteria and the At-Large assessment, coordinate interviews and
>>> objectively supply clarification and responses to the preliminary findings
>>> and recommendations. Once a final report is issued and the Board takes
>>> action on it, as appropriate, the At-Large Working Party is expected to
>>> coordinate with the At-Large community to prepare an Implementation Plan
>>> and champion implementation of improvement activities.
>>>
>>> The draft charter of the At-Large Review Working Party was reviewed in
>>> its teleconference on November 23, 2015
>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/kcJYAw>. The draft charter is now open
>>> for comments from RALO members.* You may download and review the draft
>>> charter from this wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/CcRYAw
>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/CcRYAw>*. To provide your input, please
>>> log in to Confluence wiki and submit it on that page using the comment
>>> function *by December 9, 2015 at 23:59 UTC**.* If you don’t have a
>>> login or have other issue using the wiki, kindly contact
>>> staff at atlarge.icann.org.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>>> Peregrine and Terri Agnew
>>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>>> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
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