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 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Fatima and thanks everyone for their comments, has been an active morning and learn it. 

 In this particular case the only thing we wanted to do is engage the community in a fun way and to increase in a square for the ICANN meeting in Bs. As. 

 Some clarifications: 

 1. This trivia contest is framed within the Regional Strategy is not an initiative that have made ICANN alone, otherwise there is competition for jobs in a working group with members of LACRALO. 

 2.Rodrigo Saucedo repeatedly - ICANN Project Manager participated in the monthly LACRALO calls, in order to explain the regional strategy and the projects we were working with our community (including this project) and provided to our members openly invited community to join the working groups. That is, if we consult our Community. I have also reinforced this mail to the list, as I do on many occasions. 

 3. From the beginning Rodrigo Saucedo explained that the budget for this project was US $ 2,000. 

 4. After the working group decided to contest Trivia, Rodrigo Saucedo seek options on how to make and where to make the competition due to the short budget that we had, it was decided to make an application on Facebook since only going to cost $ 500 including design and development, the remaining U $ 1,500 were going to cover the award.In addition, it thought it would be just the ticket, but I made inquiries at hotels near the Sheraton and that also made it possible to pay the hotel every day. 

 Obviously not enough to develop an application for several platforms, then the decision to go ahead with a contest on Facebook was taken. 

 5. In reference to the website that Dev found  https://icann.herokuapp.com/ 

 The intention was to achieve a square, plus an additional five (5) achieved via CROPP, as many asked when he was appointed as Buenos Aires square to ICANN53. 

 I think when you work and participates mistakes. 

 Welcome observations in a reasoned and without insults, the rest will always be discarded; I hope that when we ask for any other business collaboration, this comes before the song is implemented. 

 We had a lot of work and little time, and had to make decisions.

 Personally I never complain about the work. Now just I ask four (4) minutes of the time of those who volunteer to participate. 

 One suggestion was received on early reading conditions; add files in English and Spanish. The rest of the suggestions will be taken into account for the next. 

 Best regards 

 Alberto Soto 

 From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Friday, May 15, 2015 24:39 
 To: Alejandro Pisanty 
 CC: Alberto Soto; LACRALO Spanish 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Trivia contest, one more passengers 

 Alberto, all / os, 

 I agree with these comments from Alexander, in particular the intention to learn from this experience and will serve us for the future. 

 I would like to explain a little history of this trivia.

 As you know, this competition is one of the projects ICANN Strategy for Latin America and the Caribbean, of which I was part, and specifically in this project also was involved. 

 The reasons had to raise a contest of this kind were aimed at ensuring that, in a fun way, our ALS and representatives of our ALS involved in LACRALO, to &quot;play&quot; in this competition, could participate more and engage with the issues that concern us in our region and increase the quantity and quality of our contributions in LACRALO and At-Large. 

 From day one they started working on this strategy was made clear, and repeated countless times, this strategy is from the community, not ICANN Staff. Staff should provide support to implement projects that various members of the regional community involved in ICANN design. 

 Now, in the implementation of this project, this trivia, in my opinion-and obviously I can be mistaken-I think the staff failed to not seek support and advice from the community.For example, in Mexico, which has strong legislation to protect personal data built upon the privacy notice should be offered to the owners of the data BEFORE every one of us to offer data -to know such as what will they do with our data-this trivia is against the law of personal data. 

 First, you have to enter Facebook to participate in trivia-not all members of our ALS use Facebook, which is already a limiting participation-and before you can read the terms and conditions, the participant has to enter your name and your country, if any participant should be able to read first the terms and conditions, then decide whether to participate or not, based on what they say such terms and conditions. 

 And in most superficial aspects, missing some accents in a few words in Spanish, when personally indicated that such details are reviewed before publication.

 In my opinion, having sought the support and advice from LACRALO members to help with the design of this trivia, both from the legal aspect and from the graphic / aesthetic design, decide where published to allow a greater number of people involved, etc., also have been a way to make our ALS involved and participate and contribute their knowledge and experience in the fields in which they work daily. 

 This is what I personally feel we should serve as learning for the future, bearing in mind that the strategy ICANN for LAC is ours, community, and if we do not get involved and defend in their different projects, others will to assume, perhaps with good intentions all but ignoring our laws, customs, etc. 

 Hopefully this experience will help us for the future. 

 Best regards, 

 Fatima Cambronero 

 The May 15, 2015 1:05 Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com> &gt; He wrote:

 Alberto, 

 I understand that this was designed in the ICANN staff so that some requests are not for you but for you to exercise your good offices to transmit. 

 Not worth a contest that not everyone can participate equally because some do not have access to FB at work and others have even voluntarily decided not to use it. 

 Not worth a contest that does not conform to open technical standards. There are many other ways to make a contest. 

 No better rules and terms of reference appear only after entering data. 

 It does something fun and frivolous but to do it frivolously. Seriousness and consideration is required. 

 Not all of these views are my discoveries; part comes from members of ISOC Mexico, in public or in private, and assume full. 

 Best regards. 

 Alejandro Pisanty 

 05/14/2015 20:18 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt;: 

 Dev apologize for the hasty response. I did not read properly. 

 It is open to all members of LACRALO, ie to all certified ALS. Thus they can involve all members of each ALS, it is a choice of each ALS. 

 The regulation is in the same trivia, then place your name and country. 

 Within the short time we had, we decided to do it on Facebook, there are obtained data without writing them. 

 Best regards 

 Alberto Soto 

 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On behalf of Fatima Cambronero 
 Posted on: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:51 pm 
 To: LACRALO Spanish 
 CC: LACRALO discussion list 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Trivia contest, one more passengers 

 Alberto, 

 Dev is asked for options, which are excluded: 

 -or it is open to all members of the ALS of LACRALO 

 -or it is open only to official representatives of LACRALO ALS. 

 Your answer &quot;yes&quot; to which of the options is? 

 I take this opportunity to make another query: Are regulations published this trivia somewhere? 

 Why did you decide to publish it through Facebook and not through the Wiki, for example?Was there any reason for this decision? 

 Thanks in advance. 

 Best regards, 

 Fatima Cambronero 

 The May 14, 2015, 19:40, <asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt; He wrote: 

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 Subject: Re: Trivia Contest, one more passengers 
 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org>

 Yes Dev. 
 Regards 
 Alberto Soto 

 The May 14 2015 21:11:10 GMT-03: 00, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com <mailto:devtee at gmail.com> &gt; Wrote: 
 > Querido Alberto,
 >
 > Cuando usted dice &quot;abierto a todos los miembros de la comunidad LACRALO&quot;,
 > Significa eso
 > 1) abierta a todas las personas dentro de las ALS que forman parte de LACRALO?
 > 2) abierta sÃ³lo a los dos representantes de cada uno ALS que son miembros
 > De
 > LACRALO?
 >
 > Saludos cordiales,
 >
 > Dev Anand
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > El jue 14 de mayo de 2015 a 17:07, Alberto Soto
 > <asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> >
 > EscribiÃ³:
 >
 >> LACRALO Estimados miembros,
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Me complace informarle que GSE ALC de la ICANN y LACRALO son
 > Organizador
 >> Un Concurso Trivia titulado &quot;Â¿CuÃ¡nto sabe usted de la ICANN&quot; esta
 > Actividad
 >> Organizada con en un proyecto de nuestra Estrategia Regional.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> El Concurso Trivia estÃ¡ abierto a todos los miembros de la comunidad LACRALO, cada
 > Persona
 >> SÃ³lo puede participar una vez, y es un evento basado en la habilidad, con el
 > Ganador
 >> Siendo la persona que responde a las preguntas mÃ¡s correctas.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> El precio es un ida y vuelta a la reuniÃ³n de la ICANN 53 en Buenos Aires
 > Que
 >> Voluntad
 >>
 >> LlevarÃ¡ a cabo del 06 21 hasta junio 25, mÃ¡s alojamiento en un hotel de 6
 > dÃas
 >>
 >> Y 5 noches.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> El Concurso Trivia comienza hoy a las 20:00 GMT y termina el viernes de mayo
 > 22 en
 >> 23:00 UTC.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Para participar haga clic en el enlace:
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>  https://goo.gl/H6zl0d
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> No te pierdas esta gran oportunidad de mostrar su conocimiento y
 > Victoria
 >> Este gran precio.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Por favor compartir con todos.
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Saludos,
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Alberto Soto
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
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