[lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality

apisan at unam.mx apisan at unam.mx
Sun Mar 1 18:38:24 UTC 2015


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 Subject: Re: Net Neutrality 
 From: apisan at unam.mx

 Sergio, 


 we reduce the discussion for the moment what appears to be the essential point: the discussion about net neutrality and what we know of the resolution of the US FCC prevent telecom operators charge services differently, ie, if t sell you a connection with a capacity of 100 Mbps to Netflix and over to your house, both should cost the same. 


 That's very different from not charge. I think we can assume with high probability that CANTV charged to Netflix and others, is that correct? (It may happen that Netflix does not have a direct contract with CANTV but a company of CDN (Content Distribution Network) as Akamai or other matter who has the contract with the Company to Venezuela, and Netflix and dems between its origin and CDN servers installed in plants CANTV, but in either case, Netflix and similar They will be cut to pay for bandwidth to support the quality of their services).


 There are other interesting points in your aportacin but I suggest you go step by step, what more objective first. 


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 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio Bronstein [bronstein.sergio at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Sunday, March 1, 2015 12:21 
 To: Carlos Vera Quintana 
 CC: LACRALO Espaol 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Net Neutrality 


 Buenos das 
 My first post was an order of reflection about debating the issue 
 neutrality in all its complexity. 


 I confess that I have limitations to address not only by 
 my limited knowledge of geopolitics Internet, but by 
 the bias of working in a telecommunications operator (OT) a 
 State intends to move towards a caring and humane society, which 
 our conviction, is socialist. 


 Alejandro, referring to my previous post, sealaba coincidences between 
 my arguments and any OT and you're right. In this 
 fight for survival, are these businesses they invest 
 increasing amounts networks, while their service revenues 
 voice and data go down.This is aspara all kinds of OT, are 
 its capitalist or socialist state with fierce dueos vocation. 


 In Venezuela, access to quality communications is policy of 
 State, to regard them as a human right 
 fundamental. No countries in the world can show how many achievements as 
 blunt on the subject: Each child who attends in public schools 
 is given a computer (educational Canaima project), as 
 is esthaciendo with the university level institutions 
 State (he can be accused of discrimination but, as deca Lula, 
 "The rich do not need the State"); in the last couple of years is 
 haninstalado Free WiFi in over 2000 locations; are 
 they installed more than 1500 ms communications centers in communities 
 (Called Infocentro); 54% of Venezuelans now have access to 
 internet and its footprint reaches 93% of the territory.


 CANTV, the Venezuelan State OT, renationalised a little less than 
 8 years (not condemned, because it is Verizon pagcada cent) is 
 carrying forward these initiatives, without asking a single penny to 
 aoaao yielding government and increasing profits. 


 And aquse install preocupacin express my previous post. 
 If companies investing in networks podrn only charge your 
 users and not to those who use and if they charge (Netflix, 
 YouTube, etc.), the proposal to hold the human right to 
 podrsostener not communication. End users will stay 
 exposed to the will of those big corporations that do not pay today 
 for doing their business on foreign networks, they do not think users 
 but customers and distribute content "a piacere" not 
 are necessarily conscious citizens to develop and 
 conectarn only those who can become consumers.


 From what I read, in ultimately the fault in USA est 
 referred to the OT podrn not charge distributors 
 contents and, from an apparent defense of freedom and neutrality, 
 leaves users without guarantees that podrn connect. 


 First defend the human right to be notified and then, if 
 this condition is met, advocate neutrality. 


 Regards, 
 Sergio Bronstein 










 On 03/01/15, Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com> i wrote: 
> Hay ejemplos de Estados respetuosos y no respetuosos?
>
> Esto es muy subjetivo
>
> Carlos Vera Quintana
> 0988141143
> Sígueme @cveraq
>
>> El 28/2/2015, a las 7:54, Aida Noblia <aidanoblia at gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>> Muy interesante tema, especialmente  para la región. No se si este es o
>> no
>> el ámbito.  Me gustaría al menos estar al tanto de las reflexiones si
>> cambian de ámbito.
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>>
>> El 27 de febrero de 2015, 0:25, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <
>> leonfelipe at sanchez.mx> escribió:
>>
>>> Hola Alberto,
>>>
>>> Sin duda a primera vista parece positivo. Yo quiero ser más cauteloso y
>>> esperar a que salga el texto completo de la resolución para poder
>>> analizarlo con detalle y ver que posibles implicaciones puede tener en
>>> diversos aspectos.
>>>
>>> Por ejemplo me preocupa que al clasificarse como un bien público, el
>>> Estado pueda reclamar y ejercer rectoría sobre el mismo. Si es un Estado
>>> democrático y con principios, tal vez no sea grave. Si es un régimen
>>> autoritario y que no respeta los derechos humanos, cambia la visión.
>>>
>>> Una de las preguntas que yo me formularía es ¿Con esta nueva
>>> clasificación
>>> que se hizo las comunicaciones serán más propensas a espionaje por parte
>>> de
>>> agencias como la NSA? No lo se. Justo ahí la cautela de no festejar
>>> antes
>>> de tiempo hasta no tener los detalles del caso.
>>>
>>> En el caso de México, por citar un escenario paralelo, el Estado en un
>>> momento dado podría tomar control de la infraestructura de
>>> telecomunicaciones (por ser pública) y controlar, bajo la justificación
>>> de
>>> seguridad nacional, las comunicaciones sin que hubiera recurso que
>>> protegiera a los ciudadanos en contra de abusos. Nuevamente reflexiono.
>>> En
>>> un Estado respetuoso de los derechos humanos, el Estado bien puede
>>> controlar la infraestructura y el flujo de las comunicaciones sin que la
>>> ciudadanía tuviera (mucho) de que preocuparse. Pero en un Estado donde
>>> el
>>> respeto a los derechos humanos es laxo, por ponerlo de alguna manera, la
>>> preocupación debería ser mayúscula.
>>>
>>> Creo que el tema dará para mucho análisis, reflexión y discusión en los
>>> meses por venir.
>>>
>>> Gracias por acercarnos la nota!
>>>
>>>
>>> Saludos,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> León
>>>
>>>>> El 26/02/2015, a las 19:52, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org>
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Es una medida que ojalá prospere y sea ejemplo para los gobiernos de
>>> nuestra
>>>> Región:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://goo.gl/Rjmc7H
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alberto Soto
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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