[lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] = UTF-8 b TcOpdHJpY2Fz = ????

Alejandro Pisanty apisanty at gmail.com
Thu Jun 25 15:34:38 UTC 2015


Hola,

creo que estamos en posición de declarar un consenso sobre estos
lineamientos Ayer Sergio y otros me manifestaron verbalmente apoyo a la
propuesta.

Alberto y Humberto, de verdad de verdad les pido instituir el proceso
correspondiente.

Con este consenso podemos:

1. explorar la situación real de las organizaciones sin iniciar procesos
formales;

2. explorar cuáles serían las reglas formales aplicables;

3. ayudar de inmediato a las organizaciones que más lo necesiten.

Saludos cordiales

Alejandro Pisanty

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:42 AM, <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:

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> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]]
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>  Asunto: Re: = UTF-8 b TcOpdHJpY2Fz = ????
>  Desde: jam at jacquelinemorris.com
>
>  El diablo, es siempre, sin embargo, en los detalles.
>  El 25 de junio 2015 10:28, &quot;Carlton Samuels&quot; <
> carlton.samuels at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>
> > Yes, we are now in the ballpark.  I can support these for baseline.
> >
> > -Carlton
> >
> >
> > ==============================
> > Carlton A Samuels
> > Mobile: 876-818-1799
> > *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> > =============================
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >>
> >>  Subject: = utf-8 b TcOpdHJpY2Fz =????
> >>  From: apisanty at gmail.com
> >>
> >>  Colleagues,
> >>
> >>
> >>  today at the monthly meeting face (f2) we held a brief discussion
> >>  on metrics.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Subject to this discussion back to his place in a working group,
> >>  I think it is worth to make clear what the objective metrics. This
> >>  It is well understood in the community, and those who say they do not
> >>  They made by self-interest to distort the discussion.
> >>
> >>
> >>  What we need we are accountability and transparency between us
> >>  thereof. Individuals and organizations working activametne be
> >>  identified. Organizations and individuals that do not contribute
> >>  They involved to decide whether they will participate or no longer
> >> counted. And there
> >>  an intermediate strip of organizations and representatives who are
> >>  difficult to participate but have the will to do so.Among these there
> >>  Many types of situations: a representative who is sick or has to
> >>  spend time with family or work that sustains; changing
> >>  directive or mandate; and many more circumstances.
> >>
> >>
> >>  A good metric system would be simple, transparent, predictable, and
> >>  difficult to counterfeit. Would make a &quot;triage&quot;, ie would
> >> rather obvious
> >>  5-10 which are regularly participating organizations and
> >>  They contribute 20 which are practically abandoned, and a strip
> >>  intermediate 10 or 15 with which we must work in hopes that
> >>  recover their participation or leave the organization voluntarily or
> >>  by way of decertification. This assumes renewal cycles
> >>  certifications, we must institute.
> >>
> >>
> >>  There is a classification of units that can help us further
> >>  in this process:
> >>
> >>
> >>  1. Regular and consistent participation in all activities, and
> >>  contribution to substantive policy issues.His proposals are
> >>  LACRALO incorporated into resolutions and have impact on policy
> >>  ALAC and ICANN.
> >>
> >>
> >>  2. sporadic participation and / or devoted to procedural matters
> >>  Reglaments, formats agreements but not their contents, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>  3. sporadic appearances, little focus, and fundamentally
> >>  leading to &quot;make presence&quot; for elections and selection
> >> processes
> >>  for participation in events, especially if they involve support for
> >>  travel.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Our observation or measurement of participation of organizations
> >>  should favor the type 1, type 3 disadvantage, and encourage those who
> >>  make appearances type 2 pass to level 1.
> >>
> >>
> >>  If we can have agreement around these principles, the Working Group
> >>  Governance Metrics and only have to produce a good
> >>  implementation and their work will be more reliable, predictable and
> >> achievable.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Is there any disagreement with these general principles?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Alejandro Pisanty
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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