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 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Dear, I just answer email about some behaviors that cause us delays in our actions. 

 These considerations and other recent mails, we have them overturned in various documents we estimated that we would for the meeting in Los Angeles or by the end of last year. 

 We had many observations, and things have changed on the fly. But many were direct obstructions, because despite having made the requested changes, he turned to criticize the subject without having read or heard that it was modified. 

 Also to meet some requirements, always looking for consensus, instead of a comment period, we had double and translations again open comments.

 These documents are translated, are being reviewed and then make a webinar, this time the last, do some minimal correction and then a vote. 

 This time I hope we have more obstructions and as we are all saying, to work on substantive things, but with the cooperation of all and not to obstruction of some. 

 Let's continue the dialogue discussed, and give you an example: Alejandro Pisanty and I discussed, sometimes very seriously, but never insult us. We show our respect for one another, despite differences of opinion, and always seeking to resolve the issue of discussion. 

 Do this simple thing and move forward quickly. 

 best regards 

 Alberto Soto 

 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of Aida Noblia 
 Posted on: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 4:19 a.m.
 To: Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com>
 CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] ALAC Member selection process 

 Totally agree with Carlos and with the specific approach of the vote proposed by Alejandro, a topic he is already discussing a while. What happened has not been in vain if the specific problems like this of the vote, faces and it turns out that we can improve and move forward. 

 greetings to all 

 The July 28, 2015, 22:06, Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com <mailto:cveraq at gmail.com> &gt; He wrote: 

 Many of the ALS does not participate in the working groups besides other reasons for any or more of these reasons: 

 1. We see that working groups do not always have community support.The solution for this is that for each group or topic identify a small support group, who decide to work on them, 2-3 people. Thus the work of substance and running with support but responsibility is assumed by our representative. 

 2. Representatives in a little &quot;more attractive&quot; positions are selected on the basis of &quot;experience&quot; this means they are the same recurring. Should be promoted and encouraged the rotation for the ALS underrepresented and therefore less experienced, have for example with an alternate acting a% while certain groups and you gain responsibility and experience necessary. 

 3. The management positions are too concentrated and that greatly discourages the participation of those who believe that despite the work (it is clear that many more scoring Alejandro voters participants) will have options to take leadership roles in the absence of rules allow them, beyond the dubious democracy of the vote, scheduled do so: 

 It is remarkable as around an argument or a point of discord that usually occurs in these prcceaos of election or appointment, have much more participation in the construction or substantial aspects. There must be ... and until we assume that everyone should take at the time a leading role, the participation of the majority is poor. 

 Hopefully someday a seriously inclusive work is resumed in this RALO solve many problems. 

 Carlos Vera Quintana 

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 On 28/07/2015, at 18:05, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx <mailto:apisan at unam.mx> &gt; He wrote: 

 Alberto, 

 thank you very much for this explanation. I support the proposed process. 

 I would add that I think there should be a discussion period to allow candidates to clarify their potential conflicts of interest and to establish commitments that the community can monitor. 

 In the process just it happened this time was too short. Some believe that conflicts of interest were unsolvable. As Mr. Hinds does not participate in the community, it was not possible to clarify before the teleconference. 

 The volleys of insults, lies and behaviors &quot;bully&quot; their flattering made a rational discussion impossible. Many of us atuvimos us to suspend discussions suggested by the Ombudsman but did little. 

 Also notable is the following: in regular discussions about ten participating organizations. However they performed over 40 to vote. This illuminates a profound problem. 

 We must find a way to focus our efforts on substantive work.While we tear here, follow your new step gTLDs, IDN implementation, review of the GNSO, the transition from IANA, the appointment of a new CEO, translation and transliteration of contact information for domain name registrations, the new &quot; whois &quot;and many other topics of interest. Our comments on the profile of the new CEO were pathetic. We miss the timing of reviews AoC and regulations. We let privacy services and &quot;proxy&quot; in the registration of domain names. 

 All these issues matter to users. The rest does not serve them. 

 Alejandro Pisanty 

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 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> [Lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On behalf of Alberto Soto [asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> ] 
 Posted on: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 17:19 
 To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
 Subject: [lac-discuss-en] ALAC Member selection process 

 Dear, this is part of why the mail where the voting process explained:

 &quot;Now I want to remind you that last year we Humberto and I, only applicants. We should do vote and accept the result. There were those who voted no, others abstained and others voted yes. 

 The other case was particularly Natalia Enciso, single candidate for ALAC Member. And it was the case that we take as a precedent. 

 Mentioning the case of Sylvia Leite Herlen is not correct, we need not perform election for that office. 

 We pre-meeting with the Staff and after the decision Lance was advised that the vote would be taking as precedent the case of Natalia Enciso. 

 The process is ongoing and will end with the vote. &quot; 

 This is the mail sent before the end of the vote and which does not receive any comments prior knowledge of the result:

 &quot;Before the results of the current survey on whether or not Lance Hinds should be confirmed as the ALAC 2015-2017 <tel:2015-2017> LACRALO representative, we would like to establish the methodology to be used to determine the results. 

 If a majority (over 50%) of the respondents to the survey, not counting abstentions indicated NO, then the process of selecting the headquarters ALAC currently occupied by Fatima Cambronero will restart with a new call for applications. 

 Otherwise, the appointment of the Hinds launch is confirmed as LACRALO ALAC member for 2015-2017 <tel:2015-2017> . &quot; 

 Remember that each RALO ALAC should choose its Member; so we have made the choice as explained, taking three similar backgrounds and requests from several members that were made at the meeting of Buenos Aires, who felt that the process was incomplete. 

 In the interest of transparency, we reported before the result of the vote steps.

 In this regard we believe that it has complied with the informed and thus corresponds to open a new period of application, presentation and vote. 

 It is good to remember that there are many situations that are not expressly regulated as we wanted. We must adopt based on the rules and precedents that have position. When there is no expressly regulated situation, we must choose one of the alternatives, previously informing the community. 

 This is the only rational solution we have found to solve this inconvenience. 

 best regards 

 Alberto Soto 

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