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BANGO SG rok at bango.org.bb
Wed Jan 21 03:23:05 UTC 2015


You read my e-mail and you will see that no insult is given and none is
taken. So much for your English.

ROK

-----Original Message-----
From: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
apisanty at gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:51 PM
To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L
3A_URGENTE 3A_FW = = = iso-8859-1 ACRALO_que_viajar q = E1_a_Singapur = 2E =


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 Subject: Re: ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L 3A_URGENTE 3A_FW =
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 From: apisanty at gmail.com

 Roosevelt, 


 too sad. I've called upon you to diminish the level of aggression and you
Have failed again. Your text can be found dismissive of long-time Efforts
of many in the community, while we have no equivalent evidence of Efforts
Toward multilingualism on your side. Also I fail to see how you are
credentialled to judge language mastery but would be happy to see proof. 


 I hope Those Who feel personally insulted or collectively will take esta
matter to the Ombudsman immediately. I am prepared to do so myself if esta
scaling-up of insult and dismissiveness does not stop Immediately, for the
benefit of the community.


 So, let's try another tack (apologies for Introducing esta nautical term,
not a typo for "track" Case You Were thinking so.) It's a long
time since  we saw a contribution from your organization policy. We are
Having an  Important policy discussion. Would not it be constructive that
you ', after a  quick Consultation with your organization's membership, put
forward a  contribution? Also I guess it will be exemplary in your use of
the language  so we can all adjust our standards upward. 


 The main list policy discussion is related to finding the top 5 Risks That
May we recommend the ICANN Board's Risk Committee to consider. 


 Also Asked Whether I have the basis for inclusion of countries in LACRALO 
 May Have obsoleted. While That Is not an urgent policy consideration, it 
 May be useful to ponder in order to find a more constructive outlet for 
 what I read you as your irritation and May Consider only an objective 
 expression.


 Again let me underline That We Should all STRIVE to prove ourselves, the 
 Organizations we Represent, and LACRALO as a whole, to be a constructive 
 force and duly Represent and Promote the Interests of our geographical 
 region's Internet users. 


 Alejandro Pisanty 


 20/01/2015 19:37 GMT-06: 00 <rok at bango.org.bb> : 
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>  Desde: rok at bango.org.bb
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>  Perdone, pero ?qui es esto que se ha intentado escribir en Inglis? ?O es
> que un
>  traduccisn abajo? Certificacisn? Por favor, no me hagas remr. Todo lo que
> soy
>  dicho es que las habilidades que he visto en este grupo no pueden cumplir
> con la norma
>  de biling|e. De ahm a decir que una persona en particular califica porque
>  son biling|es es mas hilarante. El nivel de competencia requerido en
>  ambos lados (para un ejercicio como este) es demasiado alto. No hay
> excusas tampoco. Asm
>  no puede haber una precalificacisn de nadie.
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>  ROK
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre del
>  apisan at unam.mx
>  Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 19:43
>  Para: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>  Cuya lengua materna no es Inglis Puede ser incompletas, incorrectas,
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>  inexacto, injusto, o todo lo anterior. Para muchos, Inglis no es sslo un
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> conocimientos del idioma, sino que tenga
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>  Puedo necesitar que insta a mostrar un poco de respeto y evitar la
> intensificacisn de la
>  divisionismo ya visible en la lista de esta, que puedan utspicos algunos
> de nosotros
>  todavma tratar de salvar como comunidad.
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>  Ahora, por supuesto que no debermamos no asistan a las corrientes mas
> profundas de su
>  contable actual ni una visisn mas amplia de la actualidad, y podrma
> comenzar tambiin
>  para revisar las razones por las que seguimos a golpear la cabeza contra
> una pared de
>  incomprensisn mutua. Las razones que se reconocis a las regiones de ALC,
y
>  algunos clubes de campo con una contribucisn significativa considera
> parte de la misma, fue
>  no la homogeneidad de lenguaje, sino la de las tradiciones jurmdicas - lo
> que es
>  llamado &quot;Continental&quot; vis vis derecho comzn. Tal vez hemos
> intentado
>  suficiente y es el momento para una nueva mirada? El Otro criterio
> importante que
>  se aplics para asignar a los clubes de LACRALO y NARALO pams, basado en
> fmsica
>  conectividad y las fuentes de las direcciones IP, puede haberse
> convertido en gran parte
>  irrelevante Dado el florecimiento de las cuestiones relevantes en el
> nombre de dominio
>  espacio y de gobierno en sm.
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>  Yours (no, no realmente)
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>  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>      Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>  Facultad de Qummica de la UNAM
>  Universidad Av 3000. 04510 Mixico DF Mixico
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>  + 52-1-5541444475 DESDE EL EXTRANJERO
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>  DE MEXICO SMS +525541444475 +525541444475
>  Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
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>  Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  [Lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de
>  rok at bango.org.bb [rok at bango.org .bb]
>  Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:02
>  Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>  Slo no entiendo qubilinge. No he visto a nadie que LA
>  Il es experto en Ingls, asque'm a pirdida. Usted esta definitivamente
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de
>  asoto at ibero-americano.org
>  Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:45
>  Para: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  Cc: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] ??????? = ISO-8859-1 Fwd = q = 3A_persona_L
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>  Desde: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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>  Estimado Carlton. Con Humberto formado un equipo y tratar de hacer lo
> mejor para nuestro
>  Regin.
>  Temporalmente colaboracisn a necesitar a alguien que es biling|e, por
>  mantener la funcionalidad del equipo.
>  Si es sustituido por alguien que sslo habla Ingls, lo que molests por
>  Ingls mi nivel.
>  Si es para alguien que sslo habla espaqol, usted tendrproblemas en
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>  reuniones que no tienen traduccisn. Ademas no nos vamos de vacaciones,
>  suele reunirse cuando sea necesario y repartman a asistir a diversos
>  reuniones en que esto sea necessary'm no discriminan a nadie, y
>  lo siento por aquellos que no hablan espaqol y tambiin por aquellos que
> no hablan
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>  Inglis, pero creo que la funcionalidad.
>  Sque el idioma oficial es el Inglis, pero estamos en una Regin donde
>  multilinge, y mi comportamiento durante muchos aqos en el mismo, que no
> merezco
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>  Atentamente
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>  [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de
>  carlton.samuels at gmail.com Enviado el: Martes, 20 de enero 2015 17:26
>  Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>  Asunto: Re: Fwd: FW: URGENTE: persona LACRALO viajar Singapur.
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>  Carlton Un Samuels
>  Msvil: 876-818-1799
>  * Estrategia, planificacisn, Gobierno, entrega Evaluaciny *
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>  El mar 20 de enero 2015 a las 14:13 Silvia Vivanco
> <silvia.vivanco at icann.org>
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> > Staff Translation of message just sent by LACRALO's Chair:
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> > Dear all
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> > Constituency Travel has informed us that it is possible to send a
> traveler
> > to fill Humberto's travel slot to Singapore. As I suggested yesterday in
> > our monthly  call, I would like to suggest Carlos Aguirre.  He can help
> us
> > to organize meetings  F2F with possible speakers for our Capacity
> building
> > events. Carlos is in charge of LACRALO capacity building activities.
> >
> > If you would like to propose another LACRALO member,  the only condition
> > would be that the person be able to speak EN and ES and that he/she does
> > not have visa requirements/issues for Singapore.
> >
> > Deadline: Thursday 22 at 23 UTC.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Alberto Soto
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
> > lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> > asoto at ibero-americano.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:00 PM
> > To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will
travel
> > to Singapore.
> >
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> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
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> >  Subject: Fwd: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore.
> >  From: asoto at ibero-americano.org
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> >  Dear, Constituency said yes. As our reunin deal yesterday, I propose it
> > to replace Carlos Humberto Aguirre in Singapore. You can also specify
F2F
> > meetings with prospective exhibitors events Capacitacin our plan, since
> it
> > is who is in charge of it.
> >  If you wish to nominate another member, hganlo, the only condition is
> > that desempee in Spanish and English. Perdny not having visa problems.
> >  We can not expect more AllDel Thursday 22 at 2300 UTC.
> >  Best Regards
> >  Alberto Soto
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -------- Original Message --------
> >  From: Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco at icann.org>
> >  Posted: January 20 2015 14:55:26 GMT-03: 00
> >  To: Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> Humberto Carrasco <
> > hcarrascob at gmail.com>
> >  CC: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >  Subject: FW: URGENT: LACRALO person WHO will travel to Singapore.
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> >  Dear Alberto,
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> >  CT Has Told Me That LACRALO can send someone INSTEAD OF Humberto to
> > Singapore, however it we need someone With no visa restrictions.
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> >  Kindly send us the name of the person WHO will travel to Singapore
ASAP.
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> >
> >  Silvia
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> >  Silvia Vivanco
> >  Manager, At Large Regional Affairs
> >  ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >  www.icann.org
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> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: ICANN Constituency Travel
> >  Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 24:42
> >  To: Silvia Vivanco
> >  Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff
> >  Subject: Re: URGENT: See them both Humberto can not travel to Singapore
> >
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> >  Dear Silvia,
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> >  If They dont have any visa restrictions it shouldnt be a problem. Could
> > you please send me the name?
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> >  Best wishes,
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> >
> >  Joseph of Jesus
> >  Travel Support Manager
> >  Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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> >
> >  Direct Line: +1.310.301.3880
> >  Mobile: +1.562.881.7326
> >  Fax (Private): +1.424.832.1074
> >
> >
> >  Email: joseph.dejesus at icann.org <mailto:joseph.dejesus at icann.org>
> >  www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
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> >  On 1/19/15, 10:01 a.m., &quot;Silvia Vivanco&quot; <
> > silvia.vivanco at icann.org<mailto:silvia.vivanco at icann.org> &gt; Wrote:
> >  > Dear Joseph,
> >  >
> >  > Humberto Carrasco has Informed us below That unfortunately I will NOT
> >  > Be reliable to Attend in person to the upcoming Singapore and Buenos
> > Aires
> >  > Meetings. The reason Is That will Have His are recibir radiotherapy
> >  > For His kidney cancer treatment. Initially the Doctor Told Humberto
> >  > That the radiotherapy was not needed but it will be needed and
> Humberto
> >  > Will need to take care of His child During the treatment.
> >  >
> >  > Alberto Soto (LACRALO Chair) would like to know if it's possible at
> >  > Esta time to designate a replacement to go in person to Singapore in
> >  > Humberto's place.
> >  >
> >  > Please be so kind to let us know as soon as possible if esta
> >  > Arrangement would be possible.
> >  >
> >  > Thank you!
> >  >
> >  > Kind regards,
> >  >
> >  > Silvia
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Silvia Vivanco
> >  > Manager, At Large Regional Affairs
> >  > ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >  > Www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > ----- Original Message -----
> >  > From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto at ibero-americano.org]
> >  > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 24:08
> >  > To: 'Humberto Carrasco'; Silvia Vivanco
> >  > Subject: RE: Question on both
> >  >
> >  > Humberto regret muchsimo why. I think it is necessary that if
> >  > Contines in office. The only solution is to replace you in these two
> > F2F.
> >  > Silvia There is time to appoint someone to replace?
> >  > I will make a request to the Regin proposing a name (Carlos
> >  > Aguirre), asking if anyone objects. Nothing written or
> >  > Prohibited and what is not estprohibido estpermitido.
> >  > Hug
> >  >
> >  > Alberto
> >  >
> >  > ----- Original Message -----
> >  > From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto: hcarrascob at gmail.com] Sent: Monday,
> >  > January 19, 2015 2:01 pm
> >  > To: alberto Soto; silvia Vivanco
> >  > Subject: Consultation on both
> >  >
> >  > Dear,
> >  >
> >  > ATRS few minutes ago I have just been informed that the week in
> > Singapore
> >  > Begin to administer radiotherapy my son Humberto Len. You have
> >  > 14 radiotherapy sessions.
> >  >
> >  > This makes it impossible for me to travel to Singapore. This is
> because
> > I go
> >  > Every day to the hospital with him. I did not notice this until the
> day
> >  > Today because freshly delivered the results of the analysis of
> >  > Extrado riny the tumor. It was expected that there would be
> > radiotherapy,
> >  > But They will have to do unfortunately.
> >  >
> >  > This leads me to wonder if I should and can continue in office
> >  > Secretary. This, because there podrasistir to reunin Singapore
> >  > Now, neither the B Aires, because it fits right with pasanta that
> >  > Have in Germany.However, others may attend meetings
> >  > Dublin and the next as the treatment of my child ends in July.
> >  > Also desempeando could continue my work as before, but
> >  > Without the possibility to attend these meetings.
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> >  > Specifically, I would like to know if say if it will be better to
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> >  > My secretary not to travel to these events, or if
> >  > Possible to continue without attending to them.
> >  >
> >  > Attentive to your comments, and I regret this situation.
> >  >
> >  > A hug to both
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