[lac-discuss-en] Reflections on the ELA standards and expectations Taskforce

asoto at ibero-americano.org asoto at ibero-americano.org
Sun Aug 9 00:03:14 UTC 2015


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 Subject: Re: Reflections on the ELA standards and expectations Taskforce 
 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Dear Carlton, the issue of apologies had been talked ever 
 while in a meeting of ALAC, and why he was being treated in 
 LACRALO and perhaps there will cite the folly but as a 
 collaboration. It is discutiy quit. 
 Also, when you plantequitarlo, he was removed. Nevertheless it is the 
 third time I ests citing as an example. 
 Perhaps the improvement of language in meetings and lists, are other 
 valuable tool for greater participation. Inappropriate language, 
 or rude or insulting, is a ground for withdrawal of members. 
 Cheers 
 Alberto 


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 Subject: Re: Reflections on the ELA standards and expectations Taskforce 
 From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com 


 1. 




 The challenge estajustando the structural basis of the At-Large 
 participation in ICANN and perceptions of desempeo. That will be difficult, 
 at best. 




 More to the point, we are not seeing the kind of innovative thinking about 
 performance metrics that will do what you and I see as the value of 
 come out on top. 




 Case in point.We had a recent situation where I was in LACRALO 
 seriously proposed that if one sends an apology for the lack of assistance 
 - * NOTE either purely not attend * - a meeting online, to be 
 counted as participation! 




 And, some ignorant boy claimed offense if one were to reflexively 
 say aloud that the notion expressed offends even the idea of \u200b\u200bsense 
 common than it is stupid. 




 -Carlton 








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 On Saturday, August 8, 2015 at 2:37 AM Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond 
<ocl at gih.com>
 wrote: 




> Dear Alan,
>
> agreed on all your other points.
>
> On 08/08/2015 00:58, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> >
> > 3. The latter ones come to meetings, perhaps attend some meetings, 
> > enjoy the local offerings, and go home and forget about us until the 
> > next trip. THOSE are the ones that I have a real problem with.
>
> And unfortunately whenever the time comes for having face to face 
> meetings, we treat those people the same way as we treat the people 
> who genuinely want to get involved. It is impossible to build a 
> relationship with people who do not make the effort to keep involved 
> in between face to face meetingsMy argument is that we should identify 
> people who have a genuine interest in helping out and facilitate their 
> involvement in face to face meetings, more often than at GAs every 5
> So far, what I have done is to give excellent references to people 
> applying for the fellowship program and whom I judge to be of real 
> potential. But that's not enough since the program is only available 
> for developing nations.
> This is why I would favour the ability for the ALAC to invite people 
> from their ALSes to an ICANN meeting, based on a skill requirement. 
> For example, the hot topic is about WHOIS, let's invite people whom we 
> know to be privacy experts. The hot topic is about ICANN 
> Accountability - let's invite people who run an ALS that has a need to 
> impeccable accountability. etc.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
>


 
  
 
  
 


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