[lac-discuss-en] Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia

Mon May 12 16:22:27 UTC 2014

[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]

 Subject: Re: Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Bolivia 
 From: apisanty at gmail.com

 Alberto, 

 Thanks for sharing this item preliminarily. 

 Question: in this &quot;tour&quot; of the lminas are also necessary 
 introduccina information systems? 

 Ms allde it also commented that other organizations are 
 avoiding Internet define a system of information, including &quot;a 
 system &quot;because it produces some undesirable reflex reactions - 
 as limit the system structure it, own it and rule it. There is some 
 semantics discussion here, of course, from quse meant by 
 &quot;System&quot;. 

 Second observation recently (eg by reviewing for the third or 
 fourth time Laura de Nardis book about &quot;the war for governance 
 Internet &quot;) noisy estresultando me the term&quot; Hierarchical &quot;on 
 DESCRIPTION DNS IP addresses, and the administration of one and 
 other.While both systems ESTN well described as &quot;jerrquicos&quot; in 
 terms of their structures, the same is not strictly true for 
 governance. Speaking of &quot;hierarchical governance&quot; to produce uninitiated 
 also adverse reflections; created image of a control system, above 
 Down, in which each party receives orders from a boss. 

 What really is, especially in the DNS, is to delegate authority 
 completely independent. This leads to the principle of subsidiarity, the 
 importance of the shore, and the character surprise! Hierarchical no, 
 horizontal Internet. 

 Third, to describe the organization of the &quot;At Large&quot; seems 
 expose essential from the very beginning the concept of &quot;Web of Trust&quot; 
 in which the entire system is based. This concept also based esten 
 the admissions process for new organizations or ALS. 

 By exposing the system to organizations invited to join, is 
 important you explain to quvan to be subject to inspecciny by 
 of quin.And it is important to be known by other 
 organizations recognized ALS, to support them based on information 
 close and confident about their compliance with the requirements. 

 Finally, on this last point: that ms avsales better have the 
 Very hard skin. 

 Best regards to all / as 

 Alejandro Pisanty 

 5/12/2014 10:30 GMT-05: 00 Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> : 

> Estimados, ayer finalmente recibimos la aprobación de ambos proyectos, que
> se llevarán a cabo entre el 03 y 07 Junio 2014. Habíamos pedido una
> excepción para que Sebastien Bacholet pudiera viajar, pero no nos la
> otorgaron. Por esta razón en su reemplazo y por sugerencia del grupo de
> trabajo, viajaré yo en mi carácter de Presidente de LACRALO, y se mantiene
> a Sylvia Herlein Laite.
>
> En Haití contaremos con el soporte de Jean Marie Altema (Idiomas Francés
> nativo, inglés y español), fellowship de ICANN. Este contacto nos lo dio
> oportunamente Fátima Cambronero, a quien agradezco.
>
> Les adjunto la presentación que con su pertinente modificación, será
> utilizada en ambos lugares. En este momento se está traduciendo al francés,
> y ya contamos con el ejemplar en inglés.
>
>
>
> Como verán, esta presentación es la realizada en Bolivia. Si bien hubo
> participación, no fue la deseada. El evento era con cargo, no accesible a
> toda organización, ni tampoco a público en general. Tenía simultáneamente
> dentro de la misma Universidad, otro tema que evidentemente era más
> importante para el público convocado al Congreso. Por esta experiencia
> quizás si tengo tiempo, haré una aclaración sobre el programa CROPP. Creo
> que un evento de este tipo, no debe estar contenido entro en otro evento
> mayor, con temáticas varias y conferencias simultáneas, pierde efectividad.
> De todos modos, se acercaron tres personas a preguntar sobre las
> posibilidades de ciertas organizaciones. Estoy esperando que se contacten
> vía mail, pero dos casi seguro no certificarían.
>
>
>
> Saludos cordiales
>
>
>
> Alberto Soto
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> De: Dev Anand Teelucksingh [mailto:devtee at gmail.com]
> Enviado el: domingo, 11 de mayo de 2014 08:08 a.m.
> Para: Alberto Soto; Humberto Carrasco
> CC: sylvia at prontocl; Silvia Vivanco; At-Large Staff; Juan Manuel Rojas
> Asunto: Re: RV: seguimiento taller ICANN
>
>
>
> Dear Alberto,
>
>
>
> As a FYI, Rodrigo gave his approval on Thursday evening and I filed the
> proposal on the ICANN wiki on Friday.
>
>
>
>
> https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+1
>
>
> https://community.icann.org/display/gsecmntyrgnloutrchprgm/LACRALO+Trip+Proposal+2
>
>
>
>
>
> Also, with these proposals now using 4 travel slots out of LACRALO's 5
> travel slots, instead of 2 as was originally proposed by the end of the
> conference calls,
>
> the third proposal with 2 travellers to the ICT event in Suriname will
> have to be adjusted to have only 1 traveler.
>
>
>
> Dev Anand
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-05-07 11:23 GMT-04:00 Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com<mailto:
> devtee at gmail.com> >:
>
> Dear Alberto,
>
>
>
> There haven't been any concerns from CROPP RT so I've sent to Rodrigo and
> Albert for approval. Once that is obtained, we'll file the proposal on
> ICANN's wiki.
>
>
>
> However, to be very, very clear, Alberto, I'm not responsible for the
> delay in this.
>
> Your initial proposal lacked clarity and detail from the beginning and
> required numerous emails and eventually conference calls to sort out the
> information needed for the trip proposals after they were not forthcoming.
>
>
> Then there were many various changes to the travellers themselves that YOU
> requested, including different combinations of travellers travelling to
> Haiti and the Dominican Republic proposed by you.
>
>
>
> This proposal was formally submitted twice to the CROPP RT and withdrawn
> because of changes YOU requested.
>
>
>
> I've always been diligent in working with you to see LACRALO succeed in
> any outreach efforts. Please remember that.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Dev Anand
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-05-07 8:32 GMT-04:00 Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org <mailto:
> asoto at ibero-americano.org> >:
>
>
>
> FYI
>
> Dev, over two months ago I presented the project as it is today, and with
> this, if you really concrete, are endangering the goals.
>
> We can confirm asap?
>
> thanks
>
> Alberto
>
>
>
> De: Amparo Arango [mailto:amparo.arango at gmail.com <mailto:
> amparo.arango at gmail.com> ]
> Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de mayo de 2014 08:39 a.m.
> Para: Yacine Khelladi; Alberto Soto
> Asunto: seguimiento taller ICANN
>
>
>
> Estimados:
>
>
>
> ya estamos a mayo 7 y todavía no se tiene la fecha para el taller de
> ICANN. Pero ademas tampoco se han hecho los contactos formales con que
> universidad se haría este taller.
>
>
>
> Yo sugerí tres opciones: PUCMM, APEC INTEC. Durante NETmundial se hablo
> informalmente con Clara Collado de PUCMM, ella en principio quedo
> interesada pero se le dijo que se le enviaría una comunicación con todos
> los detalles.
>
>
>
> No se si se pueda hacer un taller extra para el Grupo de Governanza en
> INDOTEL...Si es así hay que organizarlo desde ahora.
>
>
>
> Yacine, tienes que decidir con quien se haría y si es Clara Colado hay que
> enviarle ya la petición formal.
>
>
>
> También debes informarle al grupo de ISOC para que ellos sean también
> convocantes...
>
>
>
> Hay que preparar la invitación y hablar con las demás universidades..
>
>
>
> En fin estamos ya en el limite para hacer todo lo que hay que ¡hacer. Yo
> salgo de viaje la primera semana de junio y además este mes tengo una
> agenda complicada.
>
>
>
> Por tanto les recuerdo acelerar este proceso pues esta todo por hacer.
>
>
>
> Amparo
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Amparo Arango Echeverri
>
> Cel: 809-696-7008 <tel:809-696-7008>
> skype: arangoe
> Twitter: aarango
>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/amparo.arango>
> https://www.facebook.com/arangoecheverri
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> lac-discuss-es mailing list
> lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es
>
> http://www.lacralo.org
>

 --------------------------- 
     Dr. Alejandro Pisanty 
 UNAM Faculty of Chemistry 
 3000 University Avenue, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico 
 +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD 
 SMS +525541444475 +525541444475 FROM MEXICO 
 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com 
 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty 
 Join the LinkedIn group UNAM, 
 http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty 
 ---- &gt;&gt; Join ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org 
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 
 _______________________________________________ 

[[--Original text (es)
http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/e1e0094b6a.html
--]]