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 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Fatima, I consider my actuacin in the region since the year 2005, no 
 warrants concepts discharges are offensive and baseless. Always 
 participate tena things and providing knowledge to do the 
 necessary foundations. 

 No cambiarnada that consensus does not want to change, nor am I imposing 
 nothing. 

 I'm just wasting time on this, instead of working 
 productively as should do. 

 Before being elected to critiquy discutmucho by this type of behaviors that 
 only affects our Regin, and please ask all non- 
 ms never practiced. 

 Regarding the application of custom, I do not mind at all. Single 
 that the lack of participation can do, but this is not the case, and 
 I repeat, THIS IS NOT THE CASE, who has with this system, impose their 
 Will initiating discussion or by pouring the first view. Because if 
 one reviewer, primarese criterion for Regin. 

 Regarding the application of what I estreglamentado as President 
 may apply Article 4 of the Operating Principles LACRALO I paragraph shall 
 third: The General Assembly should, as far as possible, operate 
 consensus. When you can not reach consensus, each accredited in ALS 
 General Assembly tendrderecho to one vote, and hese helpful decidirn by 
 Simple majority any matter submitted to the vote. 

 I just hope and remind everyone that today is 9 and the period ending on 11 
 April, please pour your comments to the list until that day. 

 Best Regards 

 Alberto Soto 

 From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:33 a.m. 
 To: Alberto Soto 
 CC: SYLVIA Herlein; LACRALO Espaol 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Comments Pblicos - Strategy of 
 ICANN Meetings 

 Alberto, 

 On April 8, 2014, 2:16, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt; Wrote: 

 Thanks Fatima, your invaluable collaboration, thanks Josh. But this time 
 fulfill everything I estreglamentado. 

 A qute you mean, &quot;I will fulfill all estreglamentado&quot;? 

 If your idea is you ignore how is working the region and let 
 listening to the region, ests comentiendo an error.

 Whether starting a new mandate does not authorize ignore how 
 that the region has traditionally worked. And our expliquque 
 Travs this region to the usual time logrpor, there is no 
 Ruling to establish how to proceed in these situations. 

 I'm just waiting without especfica date but before 12 April for 
 close this topic. Not the first presentation which must be taken into 
 account, but the views of all. 

 We have many things in internal working groups and external to our 
 Regin. And give it time convenient for everyone to 
 issued antelacin enough. 

 I think there is a lack of understanding of the work done by 
 RALOs. The RALOs are who should provide input to ALAC. The work of 
 THIN alone, isolated is filed without anyone read or hear what the 
 THIN estopinando.

 Also there is a confusion as mAb statements are handled: the 
 presenting the draft is who will act as pen holder consolidating 
 different opinions to reach a final declaration. Asse made 
 traditionally. 

 Therefore all reviews will wait for a consensus. Date 
 deadline is April 11. Otherwise, it received According deberopinar 
 until that date. 

 Ojalque is achieved the 42 ALS speak out about this and many other 
 issues. I permanently mailing emails seeking comment for carrying 
 ALAC and have had no such luck. And of course we rely on consensus. In 
 the consensus achieved for our particular operating 
 Region: if no one objects strongly disposed within, ahtenemos 
 consensus. 

 I think also there is another confusion: t debers not review, duty 
 review the region. And respecting this process I explained that I have 
 used in our THIN. 

 It is our goal in this Gestin, primarily seek to achieve consensus. 

 We agree. Personally I have always worked towards consensus. 
 Slo I understand the consensus of all the ways you want or can, 
 unless to do so based on constraints. 

 Hope you do not stray from the goal of this thread is email 
 about a draft declaration presented and on which it is 
 asking for feedback, as usually happens: lose focus on issues 
 distract from the real discussions. 
 Encantada consensus still discussing in another thread. 

 Fatima Cambronero 

 Thank you! 

 Alberto Soto 

 . 

 From: Fatima Cambronero [mailto: fatimacambronero at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:57 am
 To: Alberto Soto 
 CC: SYLVIA Herlein; LACRALO Espaol 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Comments Pblicos - Strategy of 
 ICANN Meetings 

 Dear, 

 Josgracias for starting this topic, prepare a draft declaration 
 and share it with all of us. 

 This issue also estabierto to comment on ALAC, until 12 April 
 and then the declaration obtained is Voting Member shall submit to 
 ALAC. 

 This link podrn find the relevant information: 
 https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+ICANN+Future+Meet 
 ings + Strategy + Workspace 

 It will be interesting to LACRALO can seek consensus on this statement 
 by Jospara to raise these comments on behalf of ALAC 
 THIN. 
 This is the way that members of ALAC can desempear our role: 
 receiving input from the region and elevndolo to ALAC. 

 For this to happen, and as we have done many times during the 
 Chairmanship of Jos, is needed to establish a current officers 
 deadline for receiving comments and reach consensus on the declaration, 
 to be high. As we also know we have handled with a 
 kind of &quot;rough consensus&quot;: if within the prescribed period no one objects 
 strongly believes that there is acceptance of what is and estproponiendo 
 We have reached this consensus. Also we have the understanding that driving 
 who presented the draft declaration acts as &quot;pen holder&quot; of the 
 declaration, and must be incorporated into the original version comments 
 received and prepare the final declaration. This not estprevisto in our 
 rules of procedure, has become a rule of habit; without 
 but is similar to the procedure followed in ALAC. 

 I hope we can continue this procedure for oiling LACRALO 
 follow pronouncing on the issues on which comments are required, and 
 ALAC count with these positions to elevate ALAC. 

 Best Regards, 
 Fatima Cambronero

 The April 7, 2014, 22:40 Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org 
<mailto:asoto at ibero-americano.org> &gt; Wrote: 

 Dear Sylvia, I have a concern. Pblicas will be two days in 
 Meeting A and C, not grabbing it B. stas ÚLTIMAS realizarn in places 
 not have the capacity to organize large meetings, which 
 Sern passes mean guys. And these never They will have the opportunity to 
 participacinpblica. Sque everything can not be achieved, but not 
 harmful to them and also for ICANN? 
 Thanks and best regards 

 Alberto Soto 

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] On Behalf Of 
 sylvia at internautabrasil.org <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>
 Posted on: Monday, April 7, 2014 7:37 pm
 To: 'JosFrancisco Arce'; 'LACRALO Espaol' 
 Subject: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Comments Pblicos - Strategy of 

 ICANN Meetings 

 Dear Jos 
 Thanks for your comments and declaration which we will be studying and 
 responding with my companions of MSWG, but since you already advance that 
 were taken into account all your concerns and so late take the 
 decision to offer the community this new option of annual meetings. 
 I invite everyone to see the presentation we did in Singapore 
 explaining the reasons leading us to present this new model. 
 http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-mswg/presentation-mswg-24mar14- 
 in 
 http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-mswg 

 tb and make comments which they believe necessary in 
 http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.htm 
 until 25 April. 

 Regards, 
 Sylvia 

 ___________________________________________________ 
 Sylvia Herlein 
 sylvia at internautabrasil.org <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>
 Secretary-LACRALO ICANN / 2012-2014 - Secretary http://atlarge.icann.org 
 FLUI 2009-2015 sylvia_leite = Skype 

 ----- Mensagem Original ----- 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> ] Em nome de Jos 
 Francisco Arce em Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 11:36 
 To: LACRALO Espaol 
 Assunto: [lac-discuss-es] Comments Pblicos - Strategy Meetings 
 ICANN 

 Dear Members 

 As I estabierto SABRN pblicos comment period on group 
 estratgico work of ICANN meetings 

 https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.ht 
 &lt;  https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-strategy-25feb14-en.h 
 tm&gt; 
 m 

 In turn, the document to be considered this in several languages \u200b\u200bincluding 
 Espaol: 
 https://www.icann.org/es/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25f 
 &lt;  https://www.icann.org/es/groups/board/participation/mswg/recommendations-25 
 feb14-en.pdf&gt; 
 EB14-en.pdf 

 A member of the region, Sylvia Leite, is currently a member of the group, 
 who has worked very hard in this draft, along with the others 
 members. 

 I personally drafted a declaration for you to leave 
 as in the region, if there is no consensus, I estarsubindolo to 
 pblicos comments personally. The last day is April 25. 

 My comp: 
 https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47264806 

 Regards 

 - 
 Arce, JosF. 
 http://lnkd.in/bPdTThz 
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