[lac-discuss-en] 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA

vanda at uol.com.br vanda at uol.com.br
Fri Mar 7 17:10:01 UTC 2014


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 Subject: Re: 193 Application FUNDETIC BOLIVIA 
 From: vanda at uol.com.br

 I would like to raise a counterpoint about this Foundation, respecting 
 na reality of Bolivia. Personally I do not know these people or 
 Foundation, but puts you one another vision: a foundation in 
 poor country, which works to develop policies to improve the gap 
 digital know is long in Bolivia, for me it is clear that their focus 
 Whether the common user, this Board Index queen really need is turn 
 user, you need to be connected but not yet their work is esty 
 just turn this opportunity feasible.


 Additionally, being a foundation, I think Bolivia, in com 
 Most of our countries, the organization rules sob estconstituda 
 clear and hence it is an organization with local relevance, if 
 bsica also obey the condition of having no profit, APRA is my 
 an organization that cumpre his role in prolific users of the 
 Internet based on the conditions of their country, very peculiar. 
 To me it seems that your work is essential (existing users 
 or become) Bolivian and as such do not see why your answer 
 application. By its statutes seem very online with the work 
 are necessary for users of the poorest countries in our region. 
  My 2 cents 




 Vanda Scartezini 
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 On 03/07/14 9:48, &quot;Humberto Carrasco&quot; <hcarrascob at gmail.com> wrote: 
 > Dear Alberto, 
 > 
 > I just put in the wiki the reasons why I disagree with you and 
 > Understand that if I should accept the certification of this organization. 
 > 
 > Notwithstanding the foregoing, the aquabajo copy. 
 > 
 > Greetings 
 > 
 > Dear Alberto, 
 > 
 > First of all appreciate your analysis on this postulacin. Without 
 > But let me disagree with you for the following reasons: 
 > 
 > 1 -. Throughout my analysis of postulacina judgment must be a 
 > And one way analysis of background. The analysis so says relationship with 
 > The statutes or regulations governing the applicant organization. The 
 > Background analysis says relationship with the actions they have taken in 
 > Benefit the end user or in other words &quot;works&quot; made 
 > Or making for the benefit of end users. 
 > 
 > 2 -. Deberamos With these criteria to check whether the applicant meets the 
 > Requirements. Proceed to perform this analysis.
 > 
 > * To -. Analysis form * 
 > 
 > From this point of view we have the rules cited by Alberto and 
 > Also by Fátima. However, in my opinion. An item has been omitted 
 > More than relevant. The expression user can not be in the rules 
 > Specifically, but if ms Travs other general expressions, as 
 > Eg ciudadanao population. These can be found in the 
 > Orgnicos statutes of the applicant entity. 
 > 
 > The dictionary of the Real Academia de la Espaola Language (RAE) defines 
 > * With * _ciudadana_ to: 
 > 
 > * &quot;Citizen. * 
 > 
 > * 1. * F.Cualidad and citizen rights. 
 > 
 > * 2. * F.Conjunto citizens of a people or nation. 
 > 
 > * 3. * Own f.Comportamiento of a good citizen. &quot; 
 > 
 > As you can see in the second acepcin can be perfectly 
 > Including users. 
 > 
 > Considering this, the Statute orgnico FUNDETIC set within 
 > Their specific objectives as follows: 
 > 
 > &quot;Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of 
 > FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are: 
 > 
 > B.Implement Society information and knowledge between / * the 
 > Citizen * /, businesses and public and private institutions, to reduce 
 > The digital divide in the country. &quot;(Emphasis added) 
 > 
 > Aqupuede seen as the expression is used in public 
 > Contraposicina companies and public or private institutions, 
 > Making her my judgment synonymous with the user. 
 > 
 > Now, for the expression * _poblacin_ * SAR, it has pointed 
 > Follows: 
 > 
 > (From the lat. / Populati (o,-o-nis /). 
 > 
 > * 1. * F.Acciny effect to people. 
 > 
 > * 2. * F.Conjunto people inhabiting the Earth or any division 
 > Geographic it. 
 > 
 > * 3. * F.Conjunto of buildings and spaces of a city. 
 > 
 > * 4. * F. / / / Ecol. / Group of individuals of the same species occupying a 
 > Same geographic area. 
 > 
 > * 5. * F. / / / Sociol. / Set of individuals or things gone through a 
 > Statistican evaluation by sampling.
 > 
 > Meanwhile, the status of FUNDETIC points out the following: 
 > 
 > &quot;Article 10 -. (Objectives YOU SPECIFIC) -. The specific objectives of 
 > FUNDETIC - BOLIVIA are: 
 > 
 > F. Plan and execute processes in ICT capacitacin Travs of 
 > Workshops, seminars, courses, exhibitions., Promoting 
 > Creation of new capacities and skills in different segments of the 
 > * / Population / * in the context of social development Economic and 
 > Productive. &quot;(Emphasis added) 
 > 
 > Aquse refers to the various segments of the population where 
 > Users should be included. 
 > 
 > From this point of view, in my opinion, this organization 
 > If estorientada statutorily develop activities for 
 > Internet users. 
 > 
 > * B -. * Background Analysis 
 > 
 > As stated, in the presence of aquestamos activities 
 > Have been made or may be made for the benefit of users. 
 > 
 > Here, here are some examples that have been made and confirmed in the 
 > Choose a web of this institution.
 > 
 > In the section Programs and projects. Allpor example, you can go to the 
 > Section that says &quot;2012&quot; and can be found with the following: 
 > 
 > &quot;Audience design contest for the emission of three postal stamps 
 > World commemoration da Internet &quot; 
 > 
 > If the general objective of the contest is reviewed, you can find this 
 > Declararcin: 
 > 
 > &quot;GENERAL PURPOSE: To encourage the active participation of institutions 
 > Government, academic, business and industry and indigenous organizations 
 > Originating farmers across the country, to investigate and issue a 
 > Graphical proposal that symbolizes the importance and meaning 
 > Bolivia has to use and application of Information Technologies of 
 > Comunicacin and in particular the use of the Internet as a tool 
 > Promotion and development of primordial Society Informaciny 
 > Reduction of the digital divide in the country. &quot; 
 > 
 > There is a reference to indigenous and peasant organizations that 
 > Of course users should be considered.
 > 
 > Also can be seen that this organization is involved in a program 
 > Called &quot;my first web program&quot;: 
 > 
 > Http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/index.php/programas-y-proyectos/mi-pri 
 > Pure-web 
 > 
 > Aquse expresses &quot;The Foundation for the Development of Technologies 
 > Informaciny Comunicacin - * &quot;FUNDETIC-BOLIVIA&quot; *, is pleased to 
 > Launch * MY FIRST _Programme WEB_ * the same is intended to 
>  "Impulsar y promover el acceso al uso del Internet y al desarrollo de
>contenidos, servicios y aplicaciones orientado a: estudiantes,
>universitarios, profesionales, pequeñas y medianas empresas que desean
>tener presencia en la WEB a un costo solidario"."
>
>Se hace referencia a estudiantes, universitarios, profesionales, que
>también tienen el carácter de usuarios.
>
>*/_En síntesis, a mi juicio se cumplen plenamente los requisitos de
>forma y fondo aludidas para certificar a esta organización._/**/__/*
>
>Saludos
>
>
>El 07/03/2014 12:16 a.m., Alberto Soto escribió:
>> Estimados,  acabo de subir a la wiki mi comentario, con sugerencia de no
>> aceptar la certificación. Copio abajo el mismo comentario:
>>
>> Observaciones luego de la lectura de sus Estatutos, procedimientos y
>> contenido de página web:
>> Difiere la misión contenido en el Estatuto: "...  políticas, implementar
>> estrategias y coordinar acciones orientadas a reducir la brecha digital
>>a
>> través del impulso de las Tecnologías de la Información y la
>>Comunicación en
>> todos los sectores y ámbitos de la sociedad."
>> El estatuto en general, está orientado:  "...ciudadanía, empresas e
>> instituciones públicas y privadas." Nunca indica acciones orientadas  a
>> personas en forma particular.
>>
>> Observaciones en la página web:
>> La misión: " Favorecer y coordinar las relaciones del gobierno con la
>> sociedad boliviana mediante la gestión de instrumentos en TICs en todos
>>los
>> sectores y  ámbitos."
>> En "Acerca de nosotros", el motivo de su creación: "Creada para
>>coadyuvar al
>> Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia a la planificación, dirección y
>>ejecución de
>> las acciones necesarias para implementar el Gobierno Electrónico en el
>>país
>> mediante la difusión y uso de las Tecnologías de la Información y
>> Comunicación (TIC)."
>>
>> Solo se cita al usuario final de internet una vez , en "Acerca de
>>nosotros",
>> pero todas las acciones apuntan a servir en el ámbito gubernamental,
>> aclarándolo específicamente. Esto puede verse en "Funciones
>>principales",
>> "Misión", "Política de calidad", "Objetivos institucionales",
>>"Estrategia
>> general", "Demanda" (Orientación comercial", "Contenidos y Servicios"
>> (orientación comercial), "Tecnología" (orientación comercial).
>> En "Factores de éxito, Liderazgo político", requiere "participación
>>activa
>> y directa de funcionarios del gobierno."
>> En "Componentes de trabajo" está orientado a gobierno y empresas.
>>Respecto a
>> "Servicios", es netamente comercial.
>>
>> Desde el momento de su creación, no hubo ninguna acción destinada al
>>usuario
>> final de internet, y por lo expuesto precedentemente, todo su accionar
>>está
>> orientado, con criterio comercial, a trabajar con empresas y gobierno
>>de su
>> país.
>>
>> No tiene en sus estatutos, ni en sus procedimientos, ni en su página
>>web,
>> nada que permita vislumbrar un trabajo previo o futuro con el usuario
>>final
>> (no comercial) de Internet, por lo cual, no debería ser certificada.
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de
>> sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>> Enviado el: martes, 04 de marzo de 2014 09:33 p.m.
>> Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] aplicacion 193 FUNDETIC BOLIVIA
>>
>> Estimados miembros de LACRALO
>>
>> Como ya ha informado el staff, hemos recibido una aplicación por parte
>>de
>> una organización de Bolivia para formar parte de LACRALO.
>>
>> Como es costumbre, ALAC, solicita a la región un " advise", un consejo,
>> antes de votar por la incorporación o no una organización al At-Large.
>>
>> Debemos enviar este consejo para el día 10/03/2014.
>>
>> Necesitamos los comentarios de los miembros de LACRALO, y para ellos
>>hemos
>> abierto una pagina wiki:
>> 
>>https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/Regional+Advice+needed+ALS+Ap
>>pli
>> cation+193+FUNDETIC+BOLIVIA
>>
>> Recibiremos comentarios hasta el 9/03/2014 a las 23:59 UTC
>>
>>   
>>
>>   
>>
>> Vean en anexo el estatuto y el reglamento interno de FUNDETIC.
>> http://www.fundeticbolivia.org/site/
>>
>>   
>>
>> Saludos
>>
>> Sylvia
>>
>>   
>>
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