[lac-discuss-en] Fwd: New Public Comment: Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding Consideration of GAC Advice

vanda at uol.com.br vanda at uol.com.br
Wed Aug 20 15:20:45 UTC 2014


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 Subject: Re: Fwd: New Public Comment: Proposed Bylaws Changes Regarding Consideration of GAC Advice 
 From: vanda at uol.com.br

 I fully agree as I routed my weights. 
 Vanda Scartezini 
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 Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj 
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 On 8/19/14, 18:45, &quot;Javier Pallero&quot; <javierjosepallero at gmail.com> wrote: 
 > Hi all, 
 > 
 > Ageia Densi from Argentina, we support the need for a statement to 
 > On this and on the terms spelled out by Fatima and then 
 > Made by Alexander. 
 > Sure we can bring something more to the statement, but essentially think 
 > I should say what I said fellow I mentioned. 
 > 
 > Greetings! 
 > 
 > Javier J.Pallero 
 > Http://about.me/javierpallero <http://www.linkedin.com/in/javierpallero>
 > 
 > 
 > On 19 August 2014, 18:22, Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq at gmail.com>
 > Wrote: 
 > 
 Thanks &gt;&gt; Fatima. Because then one 
 Most qualified &gt;&gt; considered &quot;dangerous&quot; is my query? 
 >> 
 Carlos Vera Quintana &gt;&gt; 
 0988141143 &gt;&gt; 
 Follow mecveraq &gt;&gt; 
 >> 
 >>> On 08.19.2014, at 15:35, Fatima Cambronero &lt; 
 Fatimacambronero at gmail.com &gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>> Carlos, 
 >>> 
 >>> When the Board departs from a recommendation by the GAC must 
 Explain &gt;&gt; always, why do it, regardless of the number or 
 >> Percentage of votes required to do so. It is the one of the AC 
 ICANN structure &gt;&gt; whom the Board must give explanations in these 
 >> Cases. 
 >>> Vanda As mentioned this has happened very rarely.
 >>> 
 >>> Best regards, 
 >>> Fatima Cambronero 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> On August 19, 2014, 15:58, Carlos Vera Quintana 
 >> <cveraq at gmail.com>
 >> Wrote: 
 Dear Vanda &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; consider dangerous because the proposal? That is 2/3 
 >> Without explanation or explanations simple majority is the option? 
 >> &gt;&gt; 
 Regards and thanks &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; explanation 
 >> &gt;&gt; 
 Carlos Vera Quintana &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 0988141143 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 Follow mecveraq &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 08.19.2014, at 12:50, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>
 >> Wrote: 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Estimates 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; The Board normally can not go against a decision of the GAC. 
 But &gt;&gt; 
 About &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Few times and when he did 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Ago explaining to the public must do so expressly; but 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Internally on the board, you need only 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; A simple to make this decision get wet.
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; â…” The new proposal is equivalent to placing the GAC at the same level 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Control of the GNSO. Because a policy 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Approved by the GNSO supermajority required two thirds of the Board 
 For &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Stand against such a decision. See the statutes 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Annex A, Section 9 (Bylaws) But GNSO policy has 
 Consultation &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Public, is built open to all stakeholders. The same is not 
 Occurs &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; With the decisions of the GAC. 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; GAC Although any proposal needs to be internally 
 Approved &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 100% of the participating governments, have more recently been 
 That &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Governments have gone into fields that do not really 
 Responsibility &gt;&gt; 
 Run out &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hear the community as a whole.As in many cases 
 Catch &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Against a new TLD because one or two governments demanded it and 
 The &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Other politely come into agreement. It is difficult to achieve 100%. 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; One can understand that doing well (explaining the 2-3) the 
 Board &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Can stay freer to veto proposed controller without 
 Need &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Extensive and sometimes complex explanations. 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Personally, I see this as a dangerous alternative. To me it is 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Preferable to remain as is, with the need for explanations, 
 But &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Internally with a simple majority. 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hugs 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Vanda Scartezini 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Polo Consultores Associados 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On 8/18/14, 22:45 &quot;Fatima Cambronero&quot; 
 >> <fatimacambronero at gmail.com>
 >> Wrote: 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 Dear &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; / os, 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 This topic &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; just opened to comments ALAC. 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Please, if you will interest and comment from LACRALO 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Ask who are representatives of ALAC LACRALO 
 Vote of &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Certain way, take the opportunity to do so when the period of 
 Comment &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Is open and has not been submitted to a vote at ALAC.What 
 Otherwise &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Becomes very difficult to fulfill the mandate of the region. 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 This topic &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; very briefly (you can read the attachments) 
 Implies &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; A modification of the ICANN Bylaws relating to 
 Suggested &gt;&gt; 
 By &gt;&gt; 
 The &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 ATRT1 &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;. 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 Currently &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; that the ICANN Board is other than a 
 Recommendation &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Made by the GAC should make this decision with a majority 
 Simple &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; (50% + 1), as well as explaining why you are doing it. 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The proposed amendment implies that approved them, 
 Now &gt;&gt; 
 Board &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; would have to make the decision to move away from a 
 Recommendation &gt;&gt; 
 GAC &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; with a qualified majority (two thirds of the votes of its members).
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; In my personal reading, this decision involves giving more weight to 
 The &gt;&gt; 
 Recommendations &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; GAC will make to the ICANN Board, because 
 For &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Power to deviate from such recommendations must attend the vote 
 A &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; More members of the Board. 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; What do you think LACRALO? Should we approve the amendment (2/3 
 Votes &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Members of the Board to deviate from recommendations GAC) or 
 Should &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Remain to date (50% +1 of the votes of its 
 >> Members)? 
 What &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Could have political implications this decision and what 
 Affectations &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Could cause Internet users, specifically 
 Our &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Region? 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 Thanks a lot &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;.
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Best regards, 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 Fatima Cambronero &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Date: 08/18/2014 21:48 GMT-03: 00 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Subject: [ALAC-Announce] New Public Comment: Proposed Bylaws 
 Changes &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Regarding Consideration of GAC Advice 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; To: &quot;alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org&quot; &lt; 
 Alac-&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Dear All, 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Please kindly note That the At-Large workspace for the following 
 Public &gt;&gt; 
 Comment &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; request has-been created: Proposed Bylaws Changes 
 Regarding &gt;&gt; 
 Consideration of &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; GAC Advice &lt;  https://community.icann.org/x/KgHxAg> 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Regards, 
 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
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 Nathalie &gt;&gt; 
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 >> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC 
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