[lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
vanda at uol.com.br
vanda at uol.com.br
Fri Aug 15 15:18:58 UTC 2014
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Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas
From: vanda at uol.com.br
Exactly what I said in the Wiki and yesterday headed to colleagues.
Here in Brazil we .bb.br over 4 -5 years ago, without any
issue. If there are ccTLDs and gTLDs with this alternative does not seem right
not admit that the new also do so.
Hugs all q
Vanda Scartezini
Polo Consultores Associados
Av. Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
On 8/14/14, 19:37, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sergio,
>
> At the risk of not being understood or not I explain:
>
> So what you're saying is that you do not agree with two gTLDs
> Characters, as they could be .aa, .ab, .ac, etc.
>
> That is not up for discussion right now.
>
> What is being discussed is whether to authorize or two names
> Characters in the second level of some of the new gTLDs as .globo.
> Continuing with this example being of our region, they would like
> Aa.tld, ie aa.globo, ab.globo, ac.globo.
>
> Do you have any problems with ar.globo, br.globo, co.globo, cr.globo,
> Mx.globo, pe.globo, ve.globo, etc.? (In these examples I'm getting
> Combinations of two identical characters ccTLDs currently
> ISO 3166).
>
> I still: do you have a problem with fk.globo?
>
> I still more: imagine - no jump for the political issue - one day
> The Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela changes to ISO 3166 .ve .bv.
> Do you have a problem with that now authorizes the existence of bv.globo
> And when change happens the name is no longer available?
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> 8/14/2014 17:15 GMT-05: 00 Sergio Salinas Porto <
> Presidencia at internauta.org.ar>:
>
I assumed that it >> would not understand: What I say is that plain and simple
Do not >>
I agree >> with NgTLD two characters because it can cause
User >> confusion. I added (and now if I speak of ccTLD) that
Besides >>
>> Is a list of the ISO 3166 alpha-2 -1 indicates a series of
>> Combinations of letters that are intended for ccTLD (some
Used >> others not) and that list should be respected and not be
>> Used for purposes other than for which it was created.
This >> more clear now?
>>
* Sergio Salinas Porto >>
Argentina President Internauta >>
Argentina >> Internet Users Association
>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
FLUI >> American Federation of Internet Users
>> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
Facebook >>: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> &
SergiosalinasII >> <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
Twitter >>: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
Google+ >> Sergio Salinas Porto
>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
Hangout >>: presidencia at internauta.org.ar
>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia at internauta.org.ar> /
Pixelhub >>: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
Youtube >>: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
Skype >>: internautaargentina
Mobi >>: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
>>
* >> "Hopefully we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders
>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
Galeano * >>
>>
>>
>>
The >> August 14, 2014, 19:20, Dr.Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
Apisan at unam.mx >>
>>> Wrote:
>>
>>> Sergio,
>>>
>>> Said everything you say, it seems that this position confirms the reading
Of >>
>>> Vanda (which I share):
>>>
>>> What you say and supports Christian Casas seems to refer to FIRST
LEVEL >> at
>>> GTLD.
>>>
>>> The ongoing debate concerns the second level ** **, something kind
Aa.tld >>,
>>> Where aa is any combination of two letters.
>>>
>>> Can you confirm or deny it explicitly?
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>
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>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
>>> Lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio
>>> Salinas Porto [presidencia at internauta.org.ar]
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03
>>> To: Vanda Scartezini
>>> CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish
>>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas
>>>
>>> Dear Vanda:
>>> I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or
By >>
>>> Usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD.
>>> ICANN Many times (not always tell), are discussing what
That >>
>>> Want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about
How come >>
>>> These changes would impact on end users.
>>> We, the end users, who usually know (except
Rare >>
>>> Exceptions, which you name in your example) are three gTLDs
Or >>
More >>
>>> Characters and two-character ccTLD,
>>> A ccTLD default allows us to know which law governs users
About >>
>>> These domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some
Type >>
Of >>
>>> Quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as
>>> Recognize to be clear rules.
>>> The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some
>> Kind of
>>> Confusion about this and put an "uncomfortable" place (to call
>>> Somehow) to Internet users.
>>> Table of ISO 3166? 2 -1 indicates that there are certain
Characters >>
>>> That were not used yet, but I believe these can be
>>> Used by countries or new territories at some point and not
Should >>
>>> Be delivered to anyone.
>>> Always remember has changed the world as after the fall of
Wall and >>
>>> As before and also have changed the map of the world, what I
I studied >>
>>> When I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries
Called >>
Of >>
>>> Now call a form from another or other countries that formed today
Are >>
>>> Separate and distinct called, so that the table and further
Two >>
>>> Characters must be preserved for what it was created: a standard
>>> International that provides codes for the names of countries and
Other >>
>>> Administrative units to define domain names
Level >>
>>> Geographic superior and not to do business some entrepreneurs
With >>
>>> A little money in their pockets.
>>> I'm clear ... although this is quite complex.
>>> A dear friend hug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Sergio Salinas Porto
>>> President Internauta Argentina
>>> Argentina Association of Internet Users
>>> <http://www.internauta.org.ar> / CTA <http://ctamdq.org.ar>
>>> FLUI American Federation of Internet Users
>>> <http://www.fuilatin.org>
>>> Facebook: I salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> &
>>> SergiosalinasII <http://www.facebook.com/sergiosalinasII>
>>> Twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>
>>> Google+: Sergio Salinas Porto
>>> < https://plus.google.com/104639152443153592254/posts>
>>> Hangout: presidencia at internauta.org.ar
>>> <Hangout%3Apresidencia at internauta.org.ar> /
>>> Pixelhub: I salinasporto <http://pixelhub.me/salinasporto>
>>> Youtube: I salinasporto <http://www.youtube.com/salinasporto>
>>> Skype: internautaargentina
>>> Mobi: +54 9 223 5 215819 *
>>>
>>> * "We hope we can be disobedient, whenever we received orders
>>> Humiliate our conscience or violate our common sense "Eduardo
>>> Galeano *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>
>>> Wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let me understand. We're talking about according to their names
>> Domain.
>>>> CcTLDs and gTLDs and others are using. As here in Brazil
>> There are,
>>>> For example: @ .... bb.br for banks in Brazil. I do not think
>>> Allow
>>>> Others with relevant negotiations with the owner of the two
>>>> Characters, be different do that already occurs.To deny is to have a
Treatment >>
>>>> Miscellaneous in will market who dispute the same market,
That >>
Do not >>
>>>> Seems fair.
>>>> To me this is not the same as having .amazon or .patagonia and if
What >>
>>>> Same as having - and we or even our countries answered
>> -
>>>> Amazon.com or patagonia.com
>>>> It's a matter of being fair and have the same rule to all. Or
My >>
See >>
>>>> Obrigamos all who already use 2 characters ascii cancel
These >>
>>>> Names by level.
>>>> Appreciate if I am convinced of the contrary
>>>> Hugs
>>>>
>>>> Vanda Scartezini
>>>> Polo Consultores Associados
>>>> Av.Paulista 1159, 1004 cj
>>>> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
>>>> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
>>>> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <cristiancasas at hotmail.com>
>> Wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We agree with Sergio Salinas Porto especially the suggestion
That >>
>>> The
>>>>> Vote is negative because on this and other topics
>>>>> Like we have stated several organizations LACRALO
With >>
>>>>> Regarding its relation ngtld and country codes or regions
>>>>> Geographical (cases. Patagonia .amazonas, .cba.y attached for the
Dispute >>
>>> By
>>>>> Misuse of the list of ISO 3166-MA in the case and .gs .fk).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cristian Homes
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