[lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas

apisan at unam.mx apisan at unam.mx
Thu Aug 14 22:10:00 UTC 2014


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 Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas 
 From: apisan at unam.mx

 Sergio, 


 everything that you say, it seems that this position confirms Vanda reading (which I share): 


 What you say Christian Homes and supports the FIRST LEVEL appears to refer to the gTLD. 


 The ongoing discussion concerns the second level ** ** something aa.tld type, where a is any combination of two letters. 


 You can explicitly confirm or deny? 


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 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Sergio Salinas Porto [presidencia at internauta.org.ar] 
 Posted on: Thursday, August 14, 2014 17:03 
 To: Vanda Scartezini 
 CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Espaol 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] We agree with Sergio Salinas 


 Dear Vanda: 
 I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or 
 usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD. 
 Many times in ICANN (not always tell), are discussing what 
 want to do business, maybe it's time to start thinking about how 
 these changes will impact on end users.
 We, the end users, who usually know (except for rare 
 exceptions, such as you name in your example) gTLDs are three oms 
 ccTLD characters and two-character 
 A ccTLD default allows us users know what law governs 
 these domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some kind of 
 quiet as to how to manage with regard to this as 
 recognize to be clear rules. 
 The utilization of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some kind of 
 confusion about this and will put an "uncomfortable" place (to call 
 somehow) to Internet users. 
 The table on the ISO 3166 Alpha-2 -1 indicates that there are certain characters 
 they still were not used, but I believe these can be 
 used by passes or new territories at some point and MUST NOT 
 be given to anyone.
 I always remember how the world has changed after the fall of the wall and 
 tambiny before and have changed the map of the world, what I consider 
 little of my child is no longer seen as I asy passes that were called for 
 now call a form from another or passes that made others today ESTN 
 separate and distinct called, which follow two table asesa 
 characters must be preserved for what it was created: one standard 
 providing international codes for the names of countries and other 
 administrative units to define level domain names 
 geogrfico superior and not to do business with some enterprising 
 a little money in their pockets. 
 I hope to be clear ... although this is quite complex. 
 A dear friend hug 












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 The August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>
 I wrote: 


> Déjame entender. Estamos hablando de según nivel de nombres de dominio.
> Los ccTLD y otros gTLDs ya los están utilizando. Como aqui en Brasil hay,
> por ejemplo:  @ ....bb.br para los bancos en Brasil.  No creo que permitir
> a los demás  con respectiva negociación con el dueno de los dos
> caracteres, sea diverso do que ya ocurre.  Negar es  tener un tratamiento
> diverso en el mercadeara grupos que disputan el mismo mercado,  lo que no
> me parece justo.
> Para mi esto no es lo mismo que tener .amazon o  .patagonia  y si es lo
> mismo que tener - y nosotros o siquiera nuestros países contestaron -
> amazon.com o patagonia.com
> Es una cuestión de  ser justo y tener la misma regla a todos. O  a mi ver
> obrigamos a todos los que ya utilizan 2 caracteres ascii a cancelar estos
> nombres de según nivel.
> Agradezco si me convencen del contrarioŠ
> Abrazos
>
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> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <cristiancasas at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >Coincidimos con Sergio Salinas Porto en especial a la sugerencia de que el
> >voto sea negativo, ya que sobre esto y en otros temas
> >similares nos hemos manifestado varias organizaciones en LACRALO con
> >respecto a los ngtld y su relación con códigos de país o regiones
> >geográficas (casos: patagonia., .amazonas, .cba.y anexamos la disputa por
> >el mal uso de la lista de ISO 3166-MA en el caso .fk y .gs).
> >
> >Cristian Casas
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