[lac-discuss-en] We agree with Sergio Salinas

Thu Aug 14 22:09:52 UTC 2014

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 Subject: Re: We agree with Sergio Salinas 
 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 Estimates in Monday's meeting will have a technical clarification of this issue. 
 Sergio, also this topic is not related to the above problems such as .patagonia .amazonia and absolutely worthy of consideration ..... 
 Best Regards 

 Alberto Soto 

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 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Sergio Salinas Porto 
 Posted on: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:03 pm 
 To: Vanda Scartezini 
 CC: Cristian Hernan Casas; LACRALO Spanish 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] We agree with Sergio Salinas 

 Dear Vanda: 
 I'll try to be clear, anyone know (by knowledge or 
 usual) that two characters are used to demarcate the ccTLD.
 Many times in ICANN (not always tell), are discussing what they want to do business, it may be time to start thinking about how these changes would impact on end users. 
 We, the end users, we know that usually (with rare exceptions such as you name in your example) gTLDs are three or more characters and ccTLDs two characters, a ccTLD default allows us users know that law governs on these domains, in terms of rights and obligations and gives us some kind of peace regarding how to manage with this regard because we recognize to be clear rules. 
 The use of two characters in a NgTLD may cause some sort of confusion about this and put a &quot;uncomfortable&quot; place (to call it somehow) to Internet users. 
 The table on the ISO 3166 Alpha-2 -1 indicates that there are certain characters that were not yet used, but I believe these can be used by countries or new territories at some point and should not be given to anyone.
 I always remember how the world has changed after the fall of the wall and also before and how they have changed the map of the world, which I studied when I was a child is no longer the case and I have seen how countries were called in one form now called another or countries that formed other are now separated and are called different, so to go on like that table two characters must be preserved for what it was created: an international standard that provides codes for the names of countries and other management to define the names of geographical top-level domain and not for some entrepreneurs doing business with some money in their pockets dependencies. 
 I hope to be clear ... although this is quite complex. 
 A dear friend hug 

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 The August 14, 2014, 18:26, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>
 wrote: 

> DÃ©jame entender. Estamos hablando de segÃºn nivel de nombres de dominio.
> Los ccTLD y otros gTLDs ya los estÃ¡n utilizando. Como aqui en Brasil 
> hay, por ejemplo:  @ ....bb.br para los bancos en Brasil.  No creo que 
> permitir a los demÃ¡s  con respectiva negociaciÃ³n con el dueno de los 
> dos caracteres, sea diverso do que ya ocurre.  Negar es  tener un 
> tratamiento diverso en el mercadeara grupos que disputan el mismo 
> mercado,  lo que no me parece justo.
> Para mi esto no es lo mismo que tener .amazon o  .patagonia  y si es 
> lo mismo que tener - y nosotros o siquiera nuestros paÃses contestaron 
> - amazon.com o patagonia.com Es una cuestiÃ³n de  ser justo y tener la 
> misma regla a todos. O  a mi ver obrigamos a todos los que ya utilizan 
> 2 caracteres ascii a cancelar estos nombres de segÃºn nivel.
> Agradezco si me convencen del contrarioÅ  Abrazos
>
> Vanda Scartezini
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> On 8/12/14, 13:23, "Cristian Casas" <cristiancasas at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >Coincidimos con Sergio Salinas Porto en especial a la sugerencia de 
> >que el voto sea negativo, ya que sobre esto y en otros temas 
> >similares nos hemos manifestado varias organizaciones en LACRALO con 
> >respecto a los ngtld y su relaciÃ³n con cÃ³digos de paÃs o regiones 
> >geogrÃ¡ficas (casos: patagonia., .amazonas, .cba.y anexamos la disputa 
> >por el mal uso de la lista de ISO 3166-MA en el caso .fk y .gs).
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> >Cristian Casas
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