[lac-discuss-en] The right to forget

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Thu May 2 01:49:29 UTC 2013


Alejandro:
You asked why this matter is of importance in the ICANN context. Um, for a
couple of reasons, principally surrounding the Registrant Data Directory
Service, loosely called the WHOIS.

RAA 2013 appends a data retention specification connected to domain name
registration; it compels the Registrar to collection and storage of a
specific set of personal data elements for the duration of registration of
a domain name + 2 additional years after the domain is no longer sponsored.

This provision gives due recognition to national laws on personal data
privacy.  In some states, particularly in the EU, there is a significant
movement to make the 'right to be forgotten' part of the legal framework
for personal data privacy.

That story helps to shed further light on the 'right to be forgotten'
issue. And, hopefully, as we read this, help us to think thru the data
retention issues surrounding WHOIS in the context of RAA 2013 with greater
clarity.

Best,
-Carlton


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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:27 PM, <apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

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> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
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>  Subject: Re: The right to forget
>  From: apisan at unam.mx
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>  Omar,
>
>
>  I agree with you in principle.
>
>
>  The &quot;right to be forgotten&quot; posed by Viktor Mayer-Schoenberger
> in his book &quot;Delete&quot; is the practical application that does not
> seem very different from ARCO rights on personal data protection, and
> balance with other as the right to information - histrica, for example -
> and Esten expresinan freedom of working out. Unfortunately this happens far
> more in the fields of courts and data protection authorities in the
> community that reflects on Internet.
>
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>  One point can not be overemphasized is that there are many ways to go
> around &quot;Oblivion&quot; in its most general terms.Even if they fail to
> meet orders to clear a given digital copies of information in electronic
> databases, quedarn stakeholders who have done simple things like
> screenshots, printouts, or photographs , which may injure someone years
> later. The underlying policy problem is the ill will, with some of its
> forms as resentment, envy or revenge.
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>  I have a discrepancy with Omar in that part of his argument blames the
> victims but again I see it as something alien to the &quot;right to be
> forgotten&quot; and as part of a more general theme of &quot;understanding
> Internet&quot;, and policy in different angles.
>
>
>  Now, Carlton quviene this mailing list in the ALAC and the LACRALO? in
> quforma is steve a problem within the scope of ICANN? May apply versions of
> the &quot;right to forget&quot; to register domain names or the IP address
> assignment?
>
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
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>  From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [
> lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of
> omar at kaminski.adv.br [omar at kaminski.adv . br]
>  Posted on: Wednesdays, May 1, 2013 19:08
>  To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] The right to oblivion
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>  [[- Translated text (in -&gt; s) -]]
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>  Subject: Re: The right to forget
>  From: omar at kaminski.adv.br
>
>
>  This right to oblivion estdefendiendo at this time because the children
>  and young people who made a lot of trouble and the silly things online.
> Then
>  they grow and want others to forget all of what they did.
>
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>
>
>  Anyway, the information may be located anywhere in the world. How clear
>  things locaded servers in different jurisdictions?
>
>
>
>
>  Internet has a memory, and I personally do not agree with this
> &quot;right&quot;. Think
>  before, the practice of self-censorship. Avoid silly things or be
> responsible
>  with the results.
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>  Omar
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>  Carlton Samuels 01/05/2013 <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
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> > .....you didn't see me!  Who you going to trust? Me or your own two lying
> > eyes?
> >
> > Erasing facts....and re-writing history.  Or, just the hagiograph's
> payday
> > arrived...
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/opinion/keller-erasing-history.html?src=recg
> >
> > -Carlton
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