[lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS

Tue Mar 19 23:59:03 UTC 2013

Roosevelt:
Some facts are not to be successfully contradicted, brotherman.  It is
undeniable that we have several cases where groupings of the Caribbean and
Latin America have resulted in Caribbean marginalisation.  You named one. I
could name others.

But as with every other known fact, there are exceptions.  And the
exception has always been as a result of leadership.  Take Hugo - may he
RIP - and the Bolivarian Alternative as one example.  It would have never
worked without Chavez and his deep and fervent understanding that we have
common problems for which there might be shared solutions.  It was never
about being anti-American as the mainstream media made it.  He wasn't a
stupid man.

When we raised LACRALO at Buenos Aires, it was with the hope that an
organisation dedicated to Internet governance would be different.  This was
the principal reason for requiring decision-making by consensus.  We lost
our way.  But for awhile now, I have sensed that we might be in the
beginning of a certain maturity of vision.  I am hopeful that this will
flower, given a chance.

Don't believe LACRALO is alone with tensions. The difference is for other
RALOs, they have managed to contain and keep them manageable.  So far.  I
cannot see what you see; abandonment of Caribbean interests.   What we see
is another opportunity and another attempt to engage in advancing our
common interests.

Let's give it a try.

-Carlton

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Webmaster <rok at bango.org.bb> wrote:

> I quite agree that the conversation is counter productive. Striking workers
> are counterproductive too and are meant to be, for the sake of impressing
> upon capital, the plight of the workers. We have given quality for too
> long,
> accommodating for too long and yet treated as though we are second class
> based upon an archaic or even fictional definition of democracy. It is
> like,
> democracy is about the rule of the majority, we are the majority and we
> really don't want to hear from the scraps.
>
> Under these conditions, there will always be talk of two regions because
> one
> set of people will not sit and be dominated by another. Unless the
> Caribbean
> totally gives in to LA, there will always be talk of two regions and there
> will always be that distance between the two. My experience with the OAS
> and
> now this convinces me that LAC should never be.
>
> I am watching how the Caribbean is giving in slowly but surely. Elections
> makes no sense for the Caribbean as we have been totally disenfranchised
> and
> all attempts to make the system more fair and just are opposed by LA.
> Anybody from the Caribbean running as Chairman? You think Lance will win
> this election for Secretary? Waste of time. How can LA claim to represent
> the Caribbean when they are suppressing the Caribbean? Makes no sense to me
> and if OAS is anything to go by, participation from the Caribbean will
> dwindle in LACRALO and that will suit LA just fine.
>
> ROK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Hinds
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:11 PM
> To: Jacqueline Morris
> Cc: LACRALO discussion list
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS
>
>  It is quite frankly counterproductive to continue this conversation about
> "2 sub regions". As Jacqueline says it is nothing more a distraction. We
> are going to have to work with each other and respect each other interests.
> Let us take advantage of the diversity that we have and the skills that
> each of us brings to the table. Someone spoke during the call about AFRALO.
> I have no doubt that they have internal issues as well, but certainly on
> the face of it they seem to work despite many the languages and cultural
> differences that they might have in that RALO. We can and should do much
> better. I think sometimes we forget who and what we are doing here.
>
> My next two cents
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Jacqueline Morris <
> jam at jacquelinemorris.com
> > wrote:
>
> > it is clear that the region is LAC. I believe the issue is one of the
> > balance of majority and minority interests in a democratic institution.
> To
> > me, the focus on 2 regions is a distraction from the real issue as
> > identified here.
> > On Mar 18, 2013 12:18 PM, <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
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