[lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS

apisan at unam.mx apisan at unam.mx
Mon Mar 11 16:58:31 UTC 2013


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 Subject: Re: RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 
 From: apisan at unam.mx

 Jos, 


 For my part I see little point in continuing this discusin. Both Vanda as I stated above we think that you should have contributed to the transparency and legitimacy of the electoral process in which you intend to reeleccin by conduction of some sta steps by community members. 


 What proceeds is that your report underside gestiny your proposals for a new PERIOD to the list, in Spanish and in English, and publish them at some site (can be the Wiki but be desirable open site) so we can all have access to know and evaluate it. 


 If this process were driving someone independent, since there will be a delivery time of the report 48 hours before the first conference-debate and you will have committed to be available to answer any questions about it within that period ascomo in the days following the debate.


 Alejandro Pisanty 




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 ________________________________________ 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of JosFrancisco Arce [josefranciscoarce at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:09 
 To: Vanda UOL 
 CC: ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-in] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS


 Vanda, 


 1) I reiterate my questions if you do not understand: 


 For qutcrees never before made this questioning process 
 election of the region? and By quahora? 


 Whenever we deal with the same election procedure. 


 By qutcrees that ICANN Staff should not take intervencin in 
 elections? The staff was always who manejel Big Push with which 
 choices are made in LACRALO. 


 Interested in these answers to the community since teres, like 
 Alejandro, a great leader of the region. 


 2) Our rules regarding elections never appoint the Chair 
 in charge of the election process. All you should do secrete 
 (See rules). Sylvia was the one who opened the process Mandla and 
 who estencargada the election process, not the Chair. 


 Rules: 
 https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+Organising+Documents 


 Ms allde that particular topic, may consult with Dev Anand, 
 Secreatario previous LACRALO, who conducted many past elections. 


 In addition, as already mentioned other opportunities, if we assume that the 
 estn rules are wrong or unjust, can start a process of Modifying 
 thereof. 


 3) For the above I wonder Part the Chair when 
 not the Chair quin estconduciendo the election process, if not 
 LACRALO Secretary (Rule 13)? 


 4) You can not compare a Pas LACRALO. LACRALO is a group of people 
 estreunida that without an established legal framework, which only recognizes ICANN 
 esttrabajando certain institutional and voluntarily. 






 I appreciate your interest, 


 Attentively 


 JosArce. - 




 Vanda 2013/3/11 UOL <vanda at uol.com.br>


> From my point of view I believe once Josemis competing to reelection he
> nees to step down, a vice chair or other person shall conduct the election.
> It is a gormality that is releevant to the transparnce of the process. I
> understand the candidate can not call or oversee its own election, it is a
> matter of principle, just that. The majority of our countries Constitutions
> demands such independence.
> The rules are supposing a general election. Any election where the
> cnadidate is in the position of command needs to select someone to conduct
> the process, just that.
>
> Vanda Scartezini
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 11/03/2013, at 00:25, Silvia Vivanco <silvia.vivanco at icann.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Vanda, et all,
> >
> > I would like to ask if there is any concrete and specific circumstance
> which merits that the LACRALO election process be called into question. As
> I explained in my earlier email, ICANN Staff has been updating the WIKI,
> monitoring BOTH Mailists and working with the LACRALO Secretariat and
> Chair, to ensure the process is transparent, fair and that ALL members of
> LACRALO had a chance to send  nominations, support candidates, etc.
> >
> > The election process is taking place according to LACRALO's CURRENT
> ROPs,( however good or bad), this is what LACRALO has at the moment, and
> this is the procedure that is being followed.
> >
> > ICANN staff remains at your disposal so that this election process can
> move forward.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Silvia
> >
> > Silvia Vivanco
> > Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> > Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119
> > Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104
> > Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
> lac-discuss-en-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> vanda at uol.com.br
> > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:02 AM
> > To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS
> >
> >
> > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]
> >
> > Subject: Re: RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS
> > From: vanda at uol.com.br
> >
> > In these cases I think it is prudent to consult lawyers Icann because we
> are part of the structure of ICANN (ICANN pay our costs) to avoid problems
> as we had plenty of An LACRALO. I think Dr. Alejandro has knowledge to do
> so, aslo ask you did this before the end of this consultation process.
> > Hugs
> >
> >
> > Vanda Scartezini
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > On 03.08.2013, at 20:15, Johnny Laureano <johnnylaureano at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Estimados compañeros de LACRALO, Staff ICANN,
> >>
> >> Es dificil pasar por alto los comentarios respecto de la legitimidad de
> este proceso eleccionario, me recuerda que se ha experimentado antes y lo
> doloroso que son estos procesos para todos.
> >>
> >> Es por ello, de ser posible, sea oportuno aperturar por una semana el
> registro de candidatos para este proceso eleccionario y conformar un comité
> electoral, tal lo planteado por el Dr. Pisanty, me parece sensato y
> razonable.
> >>
> >> Una apertura a estas dos acciones, coadyuvará a la legitimidad de los
> resultados.
> >>
> >>
> >> Johnny Laureano
> >> AUI PERU - ALS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 3/8/13, Guillermo M. Zamora - Abogado <gmzamora at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Guillermo M. Zamora - Abogado <gmzamora at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECCIONES
> >> To: "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx>
> >> Cc: "lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <
> lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "ICANN At-Large Staff" <
> staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >> Date: Friday, March 8, 2013, 4:58 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr. Pisanty:
> >>
> >> Quizás me exprese mal y dije algo que no quise decir, aunque no creo
> >> haberlo hecho, en ningún momento defendí a José, ni defendí nada, lo
> único
> >> que expresé  y que reitero, es mi molestia personal por los términos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



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