[lac-discuss-en] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS

apisan at unam.mx apisan at unam.mx
Fri Mar 8 22:17:35 UTC 2013


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 Subject: Re: RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 
 From: apisan at unam.mx

 William, 


 to focus on something more concrete and objective then, and in whom, perhaps we agree, I postulate that the election of President of LACRALO estviciada home by the conflict between being a candidate, particularly candidate Nico, and play an important role in conduction, having done openly put effort to separate the two conditions. 


 Asque llamcorrupto not anyone but sopaco, and the evidence I refer, with great gusto and little hope of finding contradicted when Jostenga time and elements to deal with this. 


 As to "do something to prevent this from happening again," Aado LACRALO some members were / imos looking for other candidates and did not find anyone willing, due to the unfortunate condition of the organization (as expressed by them / as). 


 Until aqumi report ...denounced the aclaracin procured and promoted - without success so far - that "this does not happen again." Tough task awaits the policy resulting from the choice. 






 Alejandro Pisanty 












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 ________________________________ 
 From: William M.Zamora - Lawyer [gmzamora at gmail.com] 
 Posted on: Friday, March 8, 2013 15:58 
 To: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch 
 CC: Presidency Internauta; ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 


 Dr. Pisanty: 


 Quizs misspoke and told me something I did not want to say, although I do have, in no time defenda Jos, nor defendnada, the only thing to express and to reiterate, is my personal discomfort by the terms used, if anything defendfue clarity of the terms used, Joso impute to any other, an people not to my liking of lack of transparency, I do not think it's something right or that condiga with good living standards. - 
 I mean, I reiterate and argue that if one believes that there is something wrong, strange, illicit, or maladjusted to the rules, you should report it and seek its aclaracin. -


 One can have a thousand questions but they do not trump the certainties, to cite one example sencllo and very close in time, I was a fervent precursor to object. Patagonia, however at large said no, that there was no reason, happened to me plenty of adjectives to the representative that we had and absolute inaccin to hear nothing, however, as I have the certainty that someone has been a corrupt and received nothing in return for doing nothing, I'd rather shut my mouth, so if I do is try to promote future what needs to be promoted to prevent this from happening again, y'know? 


 Joses large, adult, professional and family man, sabrque say or not say, what I say is spoken very easy, but not prove anything. no need to talk about lack of transparency, or when there is nothing to suggest that sb ms personal opinion. - 


 Atte 


 William M. Zamora 
 ADIAr 


 On March 8, 2013 18:28, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx<mailto:apisan at unam.mx> &gt; Wrote: 
 Guillermo, Sergio, 


 qubueno to manifest.Qubueno who came to Jos defenders. You believe they can not only clarify the situation l? 


 A President is presented and it is unique in an election candidate who performed under his direction ... not awake some questions? 


 And no, not talking about suspicions or illegalities. I talk about policy. At least may have formed an Independent Electoral Commission to conduct the elections in the part that touches the community, and certainly is the elaborate and conduct the sesin of discusin with that candidate. 


 How will be the ballot for president? Slo will be able to vote and abstain? is going to be an option to vote against? 


 In these respects we are entering an election without rules set with anticipaciny operated by the candidates themselves. 


 An election with option of reeleccin should become an occasion of rendicin account and what you're seeing is routed either to evade ms. 


 It is not the case in the ste secrete. Sylvia has done an effective and efficient and faces competition.Also I think they should remove from the organization of the electoral process, but since there is competition, rendircuentas also of its work in this regard. 


 To dispel any doubt left in them, I just went through a similar process in another organization that has cost the job but has managed to separate the possible interests of the &quot;incumbents&quot; with the &quot;successor&quot;. The estdisponible information for those who have interest in the details. 


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 ________________________________ 
 From: William M. Zamora - Lawyer [gmzamora at gmail.com <mailto:gmzamora at gmail.com> ] 
 Posted on: Friday, March 8, 2013 15:02 
 To: President Internauta 
 CC: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; ICANN At-Large Staff; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
 Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] RES: LACRALO ELECTIONS 


 Dear: 


 I agree with Sam, I think, totally offensive and misplaced the comment of Dr. Pisanty. - 


 I ask you in the name of &quot;transparency&quot; that preaches is transparent in his words. -


 If you believe that there was some kind of unlawful conduct related complaints and then activate the mechanisms that must be activated in the absence of the saying: &quot;Better keep quiet and seem easy to talk and demostralo opinions&quot;, the saying is not harsh not want to become so critical. - 


 Atte 


 William M. Zamora 
 ADIAr 


 On March 8, 2013 17:44, Internauta Presidency <presidencia at internauta.org.ar<mailto:presidencia at internauta.org.ar> &gt; Wrote: 
 Alejandro, sorry but I do not understand, maybe I perdde something. What is the 
 problem? There was no other candidate for president Jose Arce and 
 presented two to occupy the secrete (Sylvia and Lance), I do not understand why 
 to: &quot;Make an attempt to simulate transparency, at least, as not 
 able to act on it. &quot; 


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 On March 8, 2013 14:41, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch 
<apisan at unam.mx<mailto:apisan at unam.mx> &gt; Wrote: 


> Sylvia,
>
> es urgente que Uds. envíen a la lista los nombres de los candidatos que
> solicitaron su registro.
>
> En particular parece que sólo hay un candidato al cargo de Presidente, y
> es el mismo que está organizando las elecciones.
>
> Hagan un intento para simular transparencia, cuando menos, ya que no
> lograron actuar con ella.
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
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> Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> [
> lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>] en nombre de
> sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org> [sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>]
> Enviado el: viernes, 08 de marzo de 2013 09:18
> Hasta: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> CC: 'ICANN At-Large Staff'
> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] RES:  LACRALO ELECCIONES
>
> Claro que sí, Jackeline.
> Ya estábamos trabajando en eso junto al Staff y publicaremos todo en la
> página WIKI de las elecciones.
> Saludos
> Sylvia
>
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Sylvia Herlein
> sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>
> Secretaria LACRALO-ICANN/ 2012-2013 -  http://atlarge.icann.org
> Secretaria FLUI 2009-2012
> sylvia_leite=Skype
>
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> [mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>] Em nome de
> jam at jacquelinemorris.com<mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
> Enviada em: viernes, 08 de marzo de 2013 12:57
> Para: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff
> Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] LACRALO ELECCIONES
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>  Asunto: Re: LACRALO ELECCIONES
>  De: jam at jacquelinemorris.com<mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
>
>  Hola Sylvia
>  ¿Se puede obtener una lista de todos los nominados y si es posible, un
> enlace o un  descripción de las posiciones? Por ejemplo, cuáles son las
> funciones, roles,  responsabilidades y el mandato son el Presidente y la
> Secretaría?
>  Creo que un recordatorio o, para algunos, un primer punto de vista, de lo
> que son las posiciones que  votar a favor de la toma de decisiones hará
> mucho más fácil.
>  Gracias
>
>
>  Jacqueline A. Morris
>  La tecnología debería ser como el oxígeno: ubicua, necesaria, Invisible y
> Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
>
>
>
>  El Viernes, 08 de marzo 2013 a las 6:48 AM, <sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>>
> escribió:
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> >  Subject: ELECTIONS LACRALO
> >  From: sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>
> >
> >  Dear Members of LACRALO
> >
> >
> >  Yesterday at 23:59 UTC terminel nomination period for President / ae
> > Secretary / a LACRALO 2013-2014.
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> >  https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40928090
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> >  And as announced, the next scheduled week we have a conference call
> > with  nominees (the Staff estorganizando it).
> >
> >
> >  Please enven your questions to the list or the Wiki in the section
> > comments.
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> >
> >  Regards
> >
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> >  Sylvia
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> >  ___________________________________________________
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> >  Sylvia Herlein
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> > <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>> sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>
> >
> >
> >  Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org>
> > http://atlarge.icann.org
> >
> >
> >  2009-2012 Secretary FLUI
> >
> >
> >  sylvia_leite = Skype
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> >  Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil
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