[lac-discuss-en] RES: Quorum on Virtual Votes - LACRALO Rules

sylvia at internautabrasil.org sylvia at internautabrasil.org
Mon Aug 27 01:24:12 UTC 2012


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 Subject: RES: Quorum on Virtual Votes - LACRALO Rules 
 From: sylvia at internautabrasil.org

 Dear Carlton: 


 Im so sorry it was my fault. 


 But When We Decided to extend the period Because the Staff advised we dont 
 Have the minimum quorum, Ive only looked the Spanish version, and as you 
 can see, is different from the English one. 










 Rule 11 - Resolutions and amendments 


 11.1 Participants can propose resolutions and amendments, apegndose 
 Rule 


 1; hese proposals must be submitted in writing to the Secretary of the 
 Assembly, who 


 distribuircopias among all participants. 


 11.2 As a general rule, be tratarny is someterna slo votacin the 
 resolutions or


 amendments have been circulated with sufficient anticipacina all 
 participants 


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 Rule 11 - Resolutions and Amendments 


 11.1 Draft resolutions and Proposed Amendments may be by the participants 
 Referred to in 


 Rule 1 and Shall Be Transmitted in writing to the Secretariat of the 
 Assembly, Which Shall 


 circulate copies to all participants. 


 As a general rule 02.11, no draft resolution or Amendment Shall be discussed 
 or put to the 


 vote UNLESS it has been circulated in advance to all Sufficiently 
 participants in the working


 languages \u200b\u200bof the Assembly. 


 As a general rule 02.11, no draft resolution or Amendment Shall be discussed 
 or put to the 


 vote UNLESS it has been circulated Sufficiently in advance, but in no case 
 less than two weeks, 


 to all participants in the working languages \u200b\u200bof the Assembly. 


 Should a vote in a virtual meeting not be quorate, then the chair Marshall 
 extend the close of the 


 vote for an equal amount of time as the original voting period. By the end 
 of this extension, 


 no quorum will be required. 


 APPROVED 


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 We have a serious problem here. I hope the Translation WG Could see this 
 Too. 


 Warm regards and for notice that!!






 Sylvia 






 ___________________________________________________ 


 Sylvia Herlein 


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 Secretary LACRALO-ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org>
 http://atlarge.icann.org 


 2009-2012 Secretary FLUI 


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 Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil 






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 Dear Secretariat: 
 I am Compelled to bring attention to your actions and / or Activities 
 LACRALO inconsistent with Rules of Procedure, as ADOPTED. Refer LACRALO 
 RoP, Clause 11 and Clause 20 inclusive. Hereunder, the exact wording for 
 Clause 11: 


 &quot;* Should a vote in a virtual meeting not be quorate, then the chair Marshall 
 extend the close of the ** 
 vote for an equal amount of time as the original voting period.By the end 
 of this extension, 
 No quorum will be ** required. * &quot;Note the word * chair * inline the rule. 


 We must be assured That all actions are in keeping With The Authorities 
 vested in each officer, Especially In light of recent Concerns raised acerca 
 Exceeding the Chair authority. It is unclear to what Extent the Chair of 
 LACRALO Involved With This decision was. Can you confirm That the Chair, 
 Exercised LACRALO his authority under the LACRALO RoP, Declared his 
 intention to you and Requested That You Communicate the decision to the 
 rest of us? 


 A quorum for a virtual vote ALS presume all are present, even if not 
 voting. The time period for the original Allocated quorum was * 22-Aug-2012 
 23:59 UTC to 25-Aug-2012 23:59 UTC. * That is to say three (3) days, 
 inclusive. Concerns There Could be other as well. For example, I am 
 studiously Avoiding the English translation of the text from the 
 Which Secretariat says: * &quot;** Have not yet Reached the minimum votes required 
 and That is Why We Have extended the deadline for voting Until * February 
 Sunday 26 at 23:59 UTC. * &quot;*


 Assuming it was the Chair's decision communicated That You, the record will 
 That show your mail extended the quorum call * before * the expiration of the 
 Original call. That is an egregious violation of the rules. The action is 
 more in line With The crystal ball gazing you see at a fairground, it 
 pretends to construct and know the future before it has arrived. 


 Secondly, the extension was for only one (1) additional day. This is Also 
 a plain violation since the rules would require an extension for three (3) 
 days. 


 Do be so advised. 


 - Carlton Samuels 
 The University of the West Indies ALS 


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 Carlton A Samuels 
 Mobile: 876-818-1799 
 * Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment &amp; Turnaround * 
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