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vanda at uol.com.br
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From: vanda at uol.com.br
Ola Alberto. I do not understand - what's the problem com candidates?
They accept their nominations in LACRALO. In nothing will have
votacin prejudicio this. the only thing to have sb prejudicio can be
Humberto.
This is the process of our rules: If there is disagreement as the
participacino possibility not a candidate, and if you have opinions
different, most have to decide. There are different legal opinions,
this is the problem.
No esthablando aqude qualifications because they are all very well
qualified. But only process.
On the other hand, Jose made it clear that he was not imposing any action, let
only presenting a case for one of the positions.If the
had imposed his decision then the president or his staff may
votacin propose directly on point as his proposicin
8.2 (or 8.3 on the patch) and the simple majority present at the meeting
aslo decide.
But Jose was not made clear what pas. Failure to impose anything
is decided.
Then to have a decision, (8.1) is necessary for someone to make a
point of order in the reunino per line and other supports that.
It is only about this that I mentioned in my email
Embrace.
----- Mensagem Original -----
From: Alberto Soto [mailto: asoto at ibero-americano.org]
Submitted in: second-feira, 20 August 2012 11:07
To: 'Vanda UOL'; 'JosFrancisco Arce'; 'Carlos Vera Quintana'
Cc: 'LACRALO Espaol'
Assunto: RE: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Confusion of Regin - Clarificacin
Out of respect for the other candidates involved, I can not agree.
A unified votacin to determine eligibility to participate or not,
together and whether or not the skills to be chosen, not just
for the other candidates, and not regulatory.
We have candidates with very different experiences and backgrounds, and we have
they conveniently choose to represent us.
Please do not add confusion. And it is strange that this add confusion
be supported by those who do not want to call for transparency and confusion.
Regards
Alberto Soto
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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of Vanda
UOL Posted on: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:28 a.m.
To: 'JosFrancisco Arce'; 'Carlos Vera Quintana'
CC: 'LACRALO Espaol'
Subject: [lac-discuss-es] RES: Confusion of Regin - Clarificacin
Ola Jose,
Now it is very clear that we can make a votacin on cuestin is
Humberto conditions meets or not participate in the election APRA. I
we can do as simpre. SOME proposicin makes another the supports and
estno non DEMs agree.Is if we continue with the votacin.
I propose here.
Mocin to decide on voting by all, based on the studies and dems
considerations, if the candidate has Carrasca Humberto conditions or not
als participate representeante LACRALO apra elections with ALAC,
along with the others already confirmed candidates.
Who supports it?
Vanda Scartezini
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----- Mensagem Original -----
From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome JostbNL> Francisco Arce
Submitted in: Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:55
To: Carlos Vera Quintana
Cc: LACRALO Espaol
Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Confusion of Regin - Clarificacin
Dear Carlos,
Thank you for your kind email.My previous mail was despus to follow
carefully each of the emails sent to the list, this means
following:
I reiterate, the statutes of LACRALO not entitle me to make that dedicin, but
nor would I prohbe, to be confusing and not enter discrepancies
the region need not consider that the order is opcinvlida votacin.
My proposal is that the votacin to see if the region sees the lord
Carrasco valid candidate, be made the day Monday during the teleconference
in an assembly.
Regards
JosArce. -
On August 19, 2012 10:14, Carlos Vera Quintana
<cveraq at gmail.com> escribitbNL>
> Jose de acuerdo con esta aclaracion cual es la propuesta y posicion de
> la Presidencia? No debe haber votacion? Debe haberla pero sobre la
> candidatura y no sobre la consideracion de Presidencia?
>
> Puedes aclarar para saber a que te refieres cuando dices que esperas
> lunes encontrar una solucion? y si es posible mejor hacer una
> propuesta de tu parte por favor?
>
> Carlos Vera
>
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 19/08/2012, a las 7:57, José Francisco Arce <
> josefranciscoarce at gmail.com> escribió:
>
> > Estimados,
> >
> >
> > Solo para clarificar la situación que hasta ahora parece confusa,
> respecto
> > al tema de la candidatura de ALAC, voy a exponer brevemente la
> > situación planteada.
> >
> >
> > 1) La mayoría de ustedes se ha expresado en contra de lo que ustedes
> > llamaron “La decisión del presidente”. He aquí el primer error. Yo
> > nunca tome decisión alguna y copio textual el último párrafo de mi
> > email, donde ustedes pueden ver que solo menciono la palabra
> > “CONSIDERO”. Todo lo que
> se
> > deriva de allí es incorrecto. LA PRESIDENCIA NO TOMO NINGUNA DECISIÓN.
> >
> > *...Esta Presidencia considera que el Sr. Humberto Carrasco NO
> > cumple con los requisitos de residencia exigidos para ser aceptado
> > como candidato válido dentro del proceso eleccionario que se
> > encuentra abierto para
> cubrir
> > el cargo de representante de LACRALO ante ALAC*...
> >
> >
> > 2) Es un error ir a una votación para estar de acuerdo o no de una
> decisión
> > que no existe y que nunca existió. Esta presidencia nunca se
> > expreso en contra de que la región se exprese y que tome la
> > decisión. : Lo que no
> voy
> > a permitir y me opondré, es a votaciones basadas en premisas
> > incorrectas
> y
> > contra decisiones que no existieron.
> >
> >
> > 3) No tener reglas claras trae inconvenientes. Las facultades de la
> > presidencia están dentro de un marco, dentro de una asamblea
> > valida. No existe alusión alguna a la permisión de tomar una
> > decisión de ese tipo, pero tampoco existe una negación expresa de la
> >
> >
> > Con estos puntos que abarque aquí solo quise clarificar la cuestión,
> > y tendré oportunidad el día lunes de contestar las preguntas que
> > ustedes quieran. Repito que la presidencia nunca tomo una decisión
> > ni se opuso a
> la
> > votación. Asi mismo consulte previamente con el staff legal de
> > ICANN, y hable con todos los que debía hablar, cuestión también
> > exprese en mi
> email.
> > Les pido a todos que lean nuevamente el email y en caso de duda
> consulten a
> > cerca del alcance.
> >
> >
> > Con esta aclaración, esperemos que el lunes se aclare y solucione todo.
> >
> >
> > Saludos
> >
> > José Arce
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>
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