[lac-discuss-en] (no subject)

Webmaster rok at bango.org.bb
Sun Aug 19 14:33:58 UTC 2012 

Humberto,

I fully endorse the opinion of the ICANN legal staff. At the same time, 
there is a broader issue and that is the role of the Chairperson. According 
to what you posted from ICANN Legal, the Chairman made a very bad decision 
and this further questions his right to make such decisions.

According to ICANN Legal, the Chairperson made a decision that adversely 
affected your legal rights as a candidate, but more than that, if this 
decision was allowed to prevail, it would effectively deny you your rights 
as a member of LACRALO. This is very disturbing and it calls into question 
the competence of the Chairperson in terms of understanding the rules and 
his role as Chairperson.

ROK

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From: hcarrascob at gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:09 AM
To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] (no subject)


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Subject: Re: (no subject)
From: hcarrascob at gmail.com

Dear Carlos,




With all due respect, I disagree with what you pose for the following 
reasons:


A. - There is no rule requiring aslo.


2. - Already made an inquiry to Legal that ICANN viningn
impairment. In fact, I repeat what opintbNL>

Sam Eisner (Legal ICANN) writes =>


STARTS ** **


The LACRALO may wish to Consider how issues of diversity are discussed This
in the ICANN Bylaws for the Purposes of Determining domicile / residency:


For Purposes of This sub-section 2 of Article VI, Section 2 of
the ICANN Bylaws, if Any candidate for Director Maintains citizenship of
more than one country, or Has Been domiciled for more than five years in
to the country of Which candidate does not Maintain citizenship
("Domicile") That may be Deemed to candidate be from Either 
country and
Must select in his / her Statement of Interest the country of citizenship
Domicile That or he / she wants to use the Nominating Committee for
Diversity Calculation purposes. For Purposes of This sub-section 2 of
Article VI, Section 2 of the ICANN Bylaws, a person can only have one
"Domicile," Which Shall Be Determined by Where the candidate has 
to
permanent residence and place of habitation.


There are issues of citizenship of Considerations (Which do not seem to
be at issue With This candidate) and WHERE I lives. The NomCom
Requirement sets a 5-year window - which allow for items Could Such As
schooling, etc.The LACRALO may wish to Consider Whether a school's
Requirement That a matriculant live near the school to historical weitere
Requirement That education equals to no longer Maintain the matriculant
Any sort of residence elsewhere - and They may wish to Discuss this
With The Candidate Before Taking a decision on Whether the candidacy is
viable. Whatever decision is taken, I would recommend getting a full
view of the facts from the candidate, and not basing a decision on FULLY
independent Internet research.


I do not see in the document ops ALAC That There's Any discussion of
Requirements residency, so I do not see a conflict there.


ENDS ** **


3. - In addition, following your approach should be the same
consultation whatever decisiny result not only in
the case is rejected the view of the president. The truth is that as
doctrine says "We must reject any interpretation that would lead to
absurd "in this case, it seems we are in this situation.


A big hug to the distance


Humberto






On 18/08/2012 1:35, carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com escribitbNL> > 
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>
>  Asunto: Re: (sin asunto)
>  De: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
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>  El resultado de la votación se muestran sólo un sí o no a aceptar la 
> desición hecha por un Presidente, si no, Humberto podría ser o no un 
> candidato valide. Si el resultado es a favor de no vlidate la desición del 
> presidente, tenemos que después de eso, hacer una consultaton de ALAC y el 
> personal legal de la ICANN con el fin de no estar tomando desiciones en 
> contra de los Estatutos de ICANN y romper memorando de entendimiento 
> firmado.
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>  Carlos Aguirre
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>  Enviado Desde mi dispositivo inalmbrico BlackBerry
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>  ----- Mensaje original ----- 
>  De: sylvia at internautabrasil.org
>  Date: Fri, 17 de agosto 2012 21:55:46
>  Para: <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>  Cc: <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>  Asunto: [lac-discuss-es]
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>  Asunto: =? Iso-8859-1? Q? SOLICITUD_DE_VOTACI = D3N_SOBRE_EL_? == 
> Iso-8859-1? Q? CONFLICTO_DE_CANDIDATO_ALAC_MEMBER? =
>  De: sylvia at internautabrasil.org
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>  Estimados miembros de LACRALO
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>  Teniendo en cuenta:
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>  La gran cantidad de correos electrónicos en la lista de elegibilidad 
> relacina
>  Humberto Carrasco candidato a participar en las elecciones para miembros
>  de ALAC 2013-2014;
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>  La diversidad de interpretaciones y opiniones que ha causado este
>  tema;
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>  Que la fecha oficial para la votacin se estableció entre 11 y
>  el 18 de agosto de 2012;
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>  En varios miembros se han opuesto a la Declaración hecha por el
>  votacin presidente y pidió en línea como una manera de resolver el
>  los conflictos;
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>  . Las disposiciones de la Regla 8.2 de las Reglas de Procedimiento del 
> LACRALO
>  que establece que toda apelacin ser votado inmediatmente.
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>  Las demás disposiciones pertinentes de las Reglas de Procedimiento del 
> LACRALO
>  y las Reglas de Procedimiento de la Asamblea General de las Naciones
>  Unido
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>  Este solicitaral secretan un personal votacin de 3 (tres) días a partir 
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>  Lunes 20 de Agosto a las 23:59 UTC el 23 de agosto de 2012 con la
>  propósito de los cuales:
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>  A. - El Presidente confirmó la decisión con el fin de tener en cuenta 
> que Don
>  Humberto Carrasco no cumple con el requisito de la residencia principal
>  vlido requiere para ser un candidato para el cargo de representante de
>  LACRALO a ALAC.
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>  2. - Rechazar la decisión del presidente con el fin de tener en cuenta 
> que Don
>  Humberto Carrasco no cumple con el requisito de la residencia principal
>  vlido requiere para ser un candidato para el cargo de representante de
>  LACRALO a ALAC.
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>  A continuación de esta votacin es iniciarinmediatamente la votacin para
>  elegir el nuevo miembro de ALAC entraren sitio que Sergio Salinas Porto.
>  (De 24 a las 23:59 UTC 31 de agosto)
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>  Sin más,
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>  Sylvia Herlein Leite
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>  Secretario de LACRALO
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>  Sylvia Herlein
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> <mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org> sylvia at internautabrasil.org~~V
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>  LACRALO Secretario de ICANN / 2012-2013 - <http://atlarge.icann.org>
>  http://atlarge.icann.org
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>  2009-2012 Secretario FLUI
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>  sylvia_leite = Skype
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>  Descrio: Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil
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