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asoto at ibero-americano.org asoto at ibero-americano.org
Thu Aug 16 17:39:26 UTC 2012


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 From: asoto at ibero-americano.org

 The decision to Jose Arce was serious. If we vote, we should exclude members of AGEIA? 
 This issue should be escalated. 


 Alberto Soto 
 Sent from my BlackBerry Claro Argentina 


 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: &quot;Vanda UOL&quot; <vanda at uol.com.br>
 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:23:16 
 To: 'Alberto Soto' <asoto at ibero-americano.org> ; <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> , 'At-Large Staff' <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
 Subject: RES: [lac-discuss-en] Final Exam - Member of the choice of ALAC (Part 2) 


 Friends, I think we have a clear situation where the most sense to call 
 a votacin online or by a doodle, to make a backup 
 decisin serious, that is to exclude a candidate from an election. As I said, 
 there are against and in favor. With a choice which have achieved 
 majority of votes wins.And let us then with the suggestion of Charles 
 Aguirre have a Working Group with lawyers of all the passages where 
 ALS have, if possible, or at minimum, the most countries members 
 LACRALO. 
 As future issues of legal nature we will have this support. 
 Hugs to all. 
 Vanda 
 ----- Mensagem Original ----- 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Alberto 
 Copse 
 Posted in: fifth-feira, August 16, 2012 9:45 
 To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org, 'At-Large Staff' 
 Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Final Exam - Member of the choice of ALAC 
 (Part 2) 


 Dear Members of Staff, there is a way to curb those 
 aggravate their opinions? Olivier, you really can not do anything? 


 Who wrongs do it because it is unsubstantiated. And if present, is not 
 how to express them. 
 I really urge you to Rok to moderate their language, to say with foundations and 
 only with what you think. Not what esthaciendo professional. 
 Given these things just make you want to withdraw from LACRALO. 


 Alberto Soto


 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of 
 rok at bango.org.bb Posted on: Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:27 a.m. 
 To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: Re: Final Exam - Member of the choice of ALAC (Part 2) 




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 Subject: Re: Final Exam - Member of the choice of ALAC (Part 2) 
 From: rok at bango.org.bb 


 JosArco, 




 You estfuera of order. If LACRALO is to decide this, then all 
 members should vote. You can not declare Humberto sOnly not 
 meet when it does. Tlo have said. Home are 
 Chile no UK and therefore their residence in Chile is not 
 the United Kingdom. l is restricted to remain in the UK for a while. 




 We who are here? A dictatorship? What do you qualify for 
 a statement? Are you a judge in a case.This is a simple 
 declarsu opininy cuestin of opinion. The law that are completely 
 incorrect. Besides dictionary meaning should also 
 back to the transcripts, notes and any documents of the meeting 
 to try to determine the intention of the culture was that tomla reunin 
 decision. You have not done in his speech and this makes their 
 errnea alleged trial. 




 Getting tired of this nonsense. A president who does not understand its 
 paper. 




 South Korea 




 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: josefranciscoarce at gmail.com 
 Posted on: WEDNESDAY, August 15, 2012 16:09 
 To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Final Exam - Member of the choice of ALAC 
 (Part 
 2) 








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 Subject: Final Exam - Member of the choice of ALAC (Part 2) 
 From: josefranciscoarce at gmail.com 




 It confuses two concepts: the principal residence and domicile, the 
 Legislaciny Chilean jurisprudence has clarified and delimited 
 time. 








 * Article 59 of the Civil Code defines * Chile * E * (not the 
 residence) and defines an internal component as 
 home. The other elements of the house is the minimum 
 stay there (in residence). 








 * The home is the residence, accompanied by actual or 
 presumably, the minimum to stay in it. Divdese in the political 
 and 
 civil. * 








 * 
 * 








 * The Supreme Court case of Chile * (C Supreme December 24 
 1962, R, T 59, section 1, p 478) has discussed this topic.See 
 Pgina 231: 




 says: 








 * 
 * 








 * 1. Domicile, residence, habitacin, purple. * 








 * A) Do not confuse the elements of domicile and residence, 
 First, that under the civil code is the residence acompaada 
 the actual or minimum stay in it, is a 
 valoracin jurdica defined by law Seala elements. In 
 However, a mere matter of the ratio of residence in fact, 
 absence 
 the legal definition, must be understood as natural and obvious meaning of 
 word, as the effect of acciny of residence, ie the fact that 
 of 
 seat in a particular location. * 








 * In C Concepción, April 28, 1964, R, T 61, Section 4, p. 289 
 you have 
 pronounced adjustment: * 








 * Measure B) Civil, is the address of a person based jurdico and 
 suite of residence and, in fact, a link between the person and the 
 where she lives, ordinary or accidentally. * 








 * 
 * 








 * 2) United Kingdom tax shari'ah * 








 The legislation which is responsible for regulating the issue of 
 taxes in the 
 United Kingdom 
 (Of which Scotland is a part) is also expressed in clear and distinctive 


 between home and residence. 








 The residence provides: 








 UK residence * 2.2 * 








 * There are many factors that will determine if you are 
 resident in the UK.With one exception (discussed in paragraph 
 below), 
 not simply a question of the number of days that are physically 
 present in the United Kingdom during the fiscal year, although it is a 
 important 
 consideration. * 








 * The only time that the number of days that you are physically 
 present 
 in the UK will determine your residency status is when you 
 is here to 
 183 
 days or more during the fiscal year. If you are here for 183 days or 
 more in an 
 fiscal year, you are resident in the UK. There are no exceptions to 
 this rule. * 








 * It may also be resident in the UK if they are present here 
 less than 
 183 days in a year fiscal.Esto depend on how long and how 
 are often 
 Here, the purpose and pattern of their presence and their connections with the 
 UK. These may include the location of his family, his 
 property, its 
 their work life and social relations. * 








 * Http :/ / www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/hmrc6.pdf * 








 * 3.2 What is the habitual residence? * 








 * Ordinary residence is different from residence. The Common Word 
 Indicates that their residence in the UK is typical for you and not 
 casual. 
 Do not confuse the habitual residence, established (see 
 part 
 4). * 








 * If you have always lived in the UK who are ordinarily resident 
 Then you are here. 
 When you arrive in the UK who have no mayor to remain in the 
 United Kingdom 
 Permanently or indefinitely in order to have a residence 
 usual here. It 
 enough that your residence has all the following attributes. 
 * 








 * Your presence here has a purpose could establecido.Esto 
 is \\ u200b \\ u200bpor only a limited period, but have continued 
 enough to be properly 
 Described as Settled.Business, employment and family can provide 
 all 
 stated purpose, but this list is not exhaustive. * 








 * Their presence in the UK is part of the regular 
 the usual way of life for the moment. This may include temporary 
 Absences from the UK.For example, if you come to live in 
 UK for three 
 years or more, then you will have established for regular and routine 
 Mode 
 of 
 life here from the beginning. * 








 * You have to eat in the UK voluntarily. The fact that 
 has chosen to come to the UK at the request of their employer rather than 
 find another job does not make their presence here involuntary. 
 * 








 * The pattern of his presence, both in the UK and abroad, 
 is an important 
 When you are deciding whether the factors have their habitual residence 
 UK. You 
 You also need to consider their reasons for being in, reach, 
 or leave the UK and your lifestyle and habits. Parts 7 and 8 will 
 help 
 You With that, they explain the considerations for those who come 
 to and 
 leaving the UK. * 








 http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/hmrc6.pdf 








 * 4.2 What is the address? * 








 * The home is usually a matter of law, not the 
 tax law. There are many 
 Stuff 
 Affecting their home. Some of the main points you 
 should 
 Consider if you're not home to affirm in the UK 
 shown below: 
 * 








 * You can not be without a home. * 








 * You can only have one domicile at a time. * 








 * You are domiciled in the country where you normally 
 Have your permanent home. * 








 * Your home will continue existing until 
 buy a new one. * 








 * Domicile is distinct from nationality and residence, 
 While both may have an impact at home. * 








 * The fact that register and vote and abroad 
 voter does not take into account typically decide when or not 
 to you 
 are domiciled in the UK. * 








 ** 








 * All references to make his home in the UK 
 refers to 
 Be domiciled anywhere in the UK. * 








 http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/hmrc6.pdf 








 * Built-here is a technical term with a meaning.A large 
 features (and this 
 is a considerable simplification) An individual is resident in the 
 United Kingdom if 
 I was born in the United Kingdom or the United Kingdom is the historic home 
 permanent and not a 
 United Kingdom 
 home if born outside the United Kingdom and Mayor To Remain 
 permanently. * 








 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom 








 * In law, the domicile is the permanent assignment of state or of Being 
 resident <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident> In a special ** 
 jurisdiction <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction_%28area%29> .A 
 ** 
 person domiciled in a jurisdiction may remain even after 
 you quit, 
 they have a sufficient connection maintained with that jurisdiction or 
 have not 
 It has been an intention to leave permanently (ie, if 
 that person has MOVED 
 to a different state, but have no intention of staying 
 Formed there 
 indefinitely). A Corporate domicile equals out 
 STI 
 of incorporation. * 








 * Http :/ / en.wikipedia.org / wiki / *** Domicile_ 28law% 29% 








 * 
 * 








 * 3) sharee'ah of Scotland * 








 * 
 * 








 * III.3. ** The personal status and relations in the state 
 civil (name, domicile, capacity) * 








 * The address of a person at the time of birth (home of 
 source) is the same as that of its parent, whenever a child 
 marriage. [] * 








 * For over 16 years, assuming they are still home to 
 origin 
 You can also choose a different direction. To choose a 
 different direction is 
 must actually reside in the jurisdiction, with 
 intention of remaining there indefinitely or permanently. In the 
 time missing any of these requirements are reapplied 
 autonomy of age. [] * 








 * The cuestin the domicile of a person in a particular country, to 
 often 
 be governed by Islamic law of Scotland, except disposicin against, 
 for example, an international instrument in which the UK is 
 party. [..] * 








 http://ec.europa.eu/civiljustice/applicable_law/applicable_law_sco_es.htm # 


 III.3. 
















 * 
 * 








 * Conclusions * 
















 According to the above, the operating principles as 
 requires LACRALO 
 requirement for LACRALO ALAC representative, have their place of 
 principal residence in different passes of the region. 








 The rules that define the residence Quse * means * and 
 use (ascomo acompaada the rest of the shari'ah) use 
 A similar approach: distinguish between domicile and residence in two 
 separate and distinct concepts between s. 
















 So my understanding is that the Sr.Humberto Carrasco (L to itself 
 as 
 stated in an email discussion list LACRALO) has 
 the * home * in Chile, but he is now residing 
 However, as it has indicated its intention to return to Chile at the end 
 his doctoral thesis, has a present intention that Chile is the 
 real home, fixed, permanent and principal.Is 
 where each estausente time, intends to return; 
 while its * CV *, is that, as the home in 
 a particular location, the link between the person and place 
 residence 
 either regularly or occasionally, with a certain character of permanence, 
 ie 
 more than a temporary stay (to complete their studies 
 PhD) in Scotland. 
















 That is, following the criteria established by the laws applicable to 
 our case, two concepts should not be confused: 
 residence and domicile. In the case of Humberto Carrasco has 
 two passes: Chile and Scotland. The criterion to assign one of these 
 pass 
 a house **, is a rule of law and that comments 
 above: the home of Mr. Carrasco is the criterion Chile.The 
 assigned to one of them passes a * home *, is a normal event: 
 Mr.Carrasco is living, living, has a home with a 
 character of stay (want to finish his doctoral thesis) in the 
 City of Edinburgh, Scotland (ASO said in his email 
 electrnicos: desconociencontrarse not live in the city of 
 Edinburgh and be pursuing doctoral studies at the University of 
 same name). 








 * 
 * 








 Therefore, in accordance with the provisions of the Rules 
 LACRALO procedure and observe Article 8 of the Principles 
 Operating LACRALO requiring representatives LACRALO 
 ALAC debern that his principal residence in the different steps of the 
 region and taking into account the analysis performed to determine qudebe 
 means place of residence, all in uniform as two 
 separate concepts, residence and domicile. The Presidency 
 view that Mr. Humberto Carrasco meets the requirements of 
 residence necessary to be accepted as a candidate in the vlido 
 electoral process is open to the position of 
 LACRALO ALAC representative. 
























 Regards 
















 Arce JosFrancisco 








 President of LACRALO 
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