[lac-discuss-en] RES: RES: CLOSING COMMENTS ON APPLICATIONS OPEN ALS
vanda at uol.com.br
vanda at uol.com.br
Tue Jul 31 20:32:39 UTC 2012
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Subject: RES: RES: CLOSING COMMENTS ON APPLICATIONS OPEN ALS
From: vanda at uol.com.br
I have always been in favor of having us as most representative of ALS,
best for LACRALO.
Comprendiese when empezlos few allestaban did all the
work to raise the group. But the rules with which we started, as
any organization, need to be updated, rethought for the
moment. Aspienso that one of the rules that we must seek to change
in our regulations is not allowed in organizations
natural persons, may be supported with participation of companies or other
organizations. This change may leave much stronger our group,
especially economically, and help organizations quizlograremos
girls, who are only a few natural persons, to grow or even
tornndose join other stronger.The majority of organizations
natural persons do not grow based solely on contributions from
these people, especially also because the majority of our
activities are to be charged non users, asque either,
may depend on them economically. If one succeeds ALS other support
organization, for example, quedarmucho more efficient in their work with
users.
The change in our bylaws must be in agreement with what we want
LACRALO for the future.
Hugs,
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From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
[Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Dr.
Baruch Alejandro Pisanty
Posted in: second-feira 30, 2012 22:09 julho
To: Erick Iriarte Ahon, Fatima Cambronero
Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; LACRALO Espaol
Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: APPLICATIONS CLOSING COMMENTS ALS
IN OPEN
Colleagues,
qubueno that occasionally express opinions clearly.We say
in Mxico "clearly worth more than a hundred faded" and in each of
our passes habrexpresiones equivalent.
Ms alldel passion of the moment I think we should convert these
opinions on updated criteria and use them to better meet
our common goals - a task that starts with the current definition
common objectives. Something that recently in San trabajpara
Jos, Costa Rica, and instead should advance little Prague, but to follow.
It has been mentioned many times the alternative to withdraw the certification
some or all members and start from scratch, with criteria
regulations based on the principle of "Web of Trust" or "telaraa of
trust ", each torn dams, and criteria that
organizations can demonstrate that represent users and / or serve
the user community.
Discussions like today, and the lack of results of Conciliation
respect to the General Assembly is in a state of constipacin
(Understanding a natural break that process by personal circumstance
of JosArce) the urge to feed more than the expectation refundacin
reconciliaciny reconstruction.
Quruta want to take?
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[Lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Erick Iriarte
Ahon [eiriarte at alfa-redi.org] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 19:45
To: Fatima Cambronero
CC: LACRALO Espaol, ICANN At-Large Staff
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] RES: APPLICATIONS CLOSING COMMENTS ALS
IN OPEN
Fatima
thank you for giving information which is known to those who follow
ICANN theme, but also thanks to clarify an important point
you must know, about what they want to do with ALS.
Also important to recognize that there are people, but to play
principles. As I turned to those who had close and then went
expandiendonos (and say that something I can say with a few years more than
your on the topic), if they see the growth rate of ALS in Latin America will
where he will notice the real work of outreach.
I have not intervened in their petty battles for those traveling more or who
has more titles, nor did I get into their philosophical contributions
the theorizing of nothing, if I recognized the work of some who even
I do not think as they have done things like Sergio (and indeed if someone
I am not exactly remember his holy devotion, but recognize the good
is also good), if I dared to speak when they have the audacity to
arguments using "pseudo-legal" to try to prevent others
participate.An entity is free to go where they best see fit
(NCUC, LACRALO, ISPs, wherever), why they choose them, not guardians of
doors open.
Notice I say, I ask, exigo, read the bylaws of LACRALO (if
escribos among all those in Sao Paulo, and we signed and approved). And
as due to the step down di believing with certainty that other
they would take the baton to build not to exclude.
So, I leave my opinion on, I will not intervene, or I'll
respond to what you say, or any who want to support or not
support what I say, shut the door to an organization with a trick
text, is spitting at the sky waiting for you not to fall, sooner or later
flip the tortilla, and some, like me, have enough patience.
Erick
On 30/07/2012, at 19:22, Fatima Cambronero escribitbNL>
> Erick,
>
> Probablemente desconozcas el trabajo que estamos haciendo en el WG de RoP
these.
>
> Justamente el tema de la participación, y más precisamente la falta de
mtricas and discussing the possibilities of de-certification
ALS involved only in times of votacino of applications for
charges without any kind of substantial contribution within LACRALO.
>
> Si fue culpa tuya haber traido a LACRALO a muchas ALSs formadas por
as members of the ALS LACRALO really dealing with users and
of their rights.
>
> La solicitud de certificación como ALS no fue presentada ni por Beatriz ni
personal but they are functional LACRALO.
> Además la sugerencia es dirigirlas hacia un espacio dentro de ICANN donde
valued.
>
> Saludos,
> Fatima
>
> El 30 de julio de 2012 21:16, Erick Iriarte Ahon <
> La mitad de las ALS de America Latina son Abogados (muchas traidas por
> mi culpa!! :) )
>
> Dejar afuera a otros bajo argumentos de "pureza" es olvidarse que tampoco
>
> No hay argumento valido bajo ninguna forma y circunstancia, sino solamente
Association of Notaries of Uruguay, which also has to Beatriz Rodriguez and
Maria Jose Viega digital activists who know them but put
their names on Google!
>
> Sino revisen aqui:
https://community.icann.org/display/LACRALO/LACRALO+ALSes
Organizations.
>
> Ya basta de sectarismo, tienen una gran oportunidad de hacer cosas por la
and get off your cloud.
>
> Erick
>
>
>
>
> El 30/07/2012, a las 18:51, Vanda UOL escribió:
>
> > Y he comentado acerca de la aplicación de Brasil, que por aceptar
> > organizaciones y empresas en sus estatutos, non son cualificadas.
> > Incluso he levantado la cuestión de revernos estas prohibiciones si
> > queremos un LACRALO mas fuerte y auto sustentable.
> > Cuanto a la organización de Notarios de Uruguay, creo que se
> > encuadra correctamente en nuestros estatutos, así que soy a favor de
> > aceptarla en nuestros cuadros.
> > Además es una oportunidad para que Uruguay participe más de LACRALO
> > Abrazos a todos
> >
> >
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> > -----Mensagem original-----
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> > Assunto: [lac-discuss-es] CIERRE DE COMENTARIOS APLICACIONES ALSs EN
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> > saludos
> >
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