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 From: apisan at unam.mx

 Hi all, 


 I consider it essential that the vision of At-Large include the construction of a network of trust between organizations and that based on this trust that we produce confidence in the voice of users an when we are not made with a formal global representation. 


 The concept of "Web of Trust" is key to winning trust, transparency and accountability rendicin. No stas, the whole concept of At-Large is weakened to near collapse. 


 If there is consensus on this issue, we must promote it. 


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 Subject: Re: REMINDER: Request for Comments: At-Large Draft Declaration of the vision - closing date for comments 17 May 
 From: jam at jacquelinemorris.com 


 I agree with Alan, and I think the detail member of the Board 
 assucesivamente selecciny are not particularly suitable for a Declaration of vision. 
 However, the proposed Declaration is a bit awkward, in my eyes, 
 especially in the use of the verb forms to refer to the singular 
 plural subject ", ALAC and At-Large". 




 With regard to the fact that vision is a Declaration of the At-Large, 
 I see no need to explicitly include or RALO ALAC at all, 
 given that both are integral parts of the Community. 




 Jacqueline A. Morris 
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 Free. (AfterChris Lehmann) 








 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 15:04, Alan Greenberg 
<alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> escribitbNL&gt; > I'm afraid that although I have some problems
> with the proposed vision statement, I do not
> think that these changes go in the right direction. Two main reasons:
>
> - To say that the At-Large Community (and not the
> upper case C as per the ICANN Bylaw definition)
> is there to strenghten the RALOs is a largely
> circular definition as the RALOs are a core integral part of the ALC.
>
> - Listing that we exist to select a Board member
> sends a VERY wrong message in my mind. It is a
> perk of participating in the ICANN ecosystem, but
> is certainly not our raison d'être.
>
> The issue of ALAC over At-Large can be addressed
> by simply reversing their order.
>
> Regarding the original statement, I find
> "catalyzes" the perfect word here, from a point
> of view of meaning, but do question whether it will be as good in translation.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> At 15/05/2012 09:39 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>Thanks for circulating this draft Vision Statement. I would have liked to
>>see a clear plain language and easily translatable Vision. Phrases
>>like  "brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters" are just vague in
>>my opinion. Vision Statements must have a mechanism of measurement as to
>>whether they are being met or not and therefore must be precise.
>>
>>Also I find it is inapt for the ALAC to be the first structure mentioned in
>>an At Large Vision statement. Perhaps the intention is the mix the two? But
>>I would advise against this route, and instead suggest providing a Vision
>>Statement of ALAC separately.
>>
>>My amended proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
>>
>>*       The At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates inclusive,
>>tangible and
>>meaningful participation of  Internet end-users worldwide in ICANN matters,
>>particularly through its work in strengthening the RALOs, its
>>representation by the ALAC and its selection of the ICANN At-Large Board
>>Member.
>>
>>Kind regards
>>
>>Cintra Sooknanan
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <
>>staff at atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A friendly reminder that the comment period for the proposed At-Large
>> > Vision
>> > Statement closes on Thursday, 17 May.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
>> >
>> > *       The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
>> > inclusive,
>> > meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide, aggregates
>> > their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN matters.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please use the comments function on this
>> > <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ> wiki page to add any suggestions or
>> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at:  <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>> > staff at atlarge.icann.org.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie
>> > Peregrine
>> >
>> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>> >
>> > E-mail:  <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org> staff at atlarge.icann.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: ICANN At-Large Staff [mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org]
>> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 2:10 PM
>> > To: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> > 'afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org'; apralo; Discussion for At-Large
>> > Europe; LACRALO discussion list; 'lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org';
>> > NARALO Discussion List
>> > Cc: 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond'; 'Cheryl Langdon-Orr'; ICANN At-Large Staff
>> > Subject: COMMENTS REQUESTED: Proposed At-Large Vision Statement
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The ALAC Improvements Review WG Final Report included a recommendation that
>> > "the ALAC should develop strategic and operational planning processes
>> > (including performance criteria and cost information) as part of ICANN's
>> > planning process." (Recommendation 5
>> > <https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/Recommendation+5> ).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As part of the implementation of this recommendation, the At-Large
>> > Improvements Implementation Work Team C created an action item to
>> > "articulate ALAC's and At-Large's vision and mission."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The At-Large Improvements Taskforce developed a proposed At-Large Vision
>> > Statement during their meeting at the 43rd ICANN Meeting in Costa Rica.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The proposed At-Large Vision Statement is:
>> >
>> > .         The ALAC and At-Large community catalyzes and facilitates
>> > inclusive, meaningful  participation of  Internet end-users world-wide,
>> > aggregates their input and  brings their voice to bear in all ICANN
>> > matters.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Olivier Crepin-Leblond, Chair of the ALAC, and Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Chair of
>> > the At-Large Improvements Taskforce, have outlined the following next steps
>> > for the proposed At-Large Vision Statement:
>> >
>> > .         4-17 May 2012 - This proposed At-Large Vision statement is open
>> > for comments between 4-17 May 2012. Please use the comments function on
>> > this
>> > wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/esPbAQ>  to add any suggestions
>> > or
>> > send your comments to At-Large Staff at: staff at atlarge.icann.org.
>> >
>> > .         21 May 2012 - The At-Large Improvements Taskforce will review and
>> > incorporate comments received during their 21 May meeting.
>> >
>> > .         22 May 2012 - The ALAC will review the proposed At-Large Vision
>> > Statement during their 22 May ALAC meeting and vote whether to ratify it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and Nathalie
>> > Peregrine
>> >
>> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>> >
>> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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