[lac-discuss-en] Internet Society Chapter certification Trinidad and Tobago

Fri Apr 6 20:23:04 UTC 2012

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 Subject: Re: Internet Society Chapter certification Trinidad and Tobago 
 From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx

 Carlton, all, 

 the concept with Which we - mostly Esther Dyson and Denise Michel, Then 
 the Evolution and Reform Committee chaired Which I in the early 2000's - 
 Designed the present At-Large representation and participation is &quot;web of 
 trust. &quot; 

 The system can still be gamed and trust may be abused. A stronger 
 ree-certification process would be advisable in a next round of review. 

 But, more trnasparency, more airing of the actual representation and Impact 
 of the Organizations, and less rhetoric, will help this system to Surely 
 work better, and allay the need for patent refounding of LACRALO. More 
 focus on the job to be done and on building the capacity to do it you 
 never been more vital. 

 Let's have essential tasks recover from the General Assembly fatally doomed 
 as well.While at this, let me call on people who are Those Presenting 
 That candidatures to an election may take place never to put forward Their 
 platforms, just in case. Less names, more action, ideas, and 
 accountability. 

 Alejandro Pisanty 

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 On Fri, April 6, 2012, Carlton Samuels wrote: 

> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:27:34 -0500
> From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> To: carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>,
>     lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org,
>     lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Internet Society Trinidad and
>     	Tobago Chapter certification
> 
> The challenge with the Due Diligence phase of the ALS application is the
> dependence on prior knowledge of the applicant either thru
> publicly-available sources or via  private sources, mostly thru one-to-one
> personal contacts. When I was Secretariat, we turned to sources as
> different as LACNIC and ISOC representatives for help.
>
> Sometimes the publicly-available sources, like websites and such, are less
> than useful.  And private sources are always open to compromise.  I recall
> in the past, for example, lots of ill-will to an ICANN regional
> representative because of his reporting of negative information he received
> from his sources about an applicant.
>
> Caught between a rock and a hard place.  But short of a forensic routine,
> this is the best we have at the minute.
>
> - Carlton
>
> ==============================
> Carlton A Samuels
> Mobile: 876-818-1799
> *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
> =============================
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:01 PM, carlos dionisio aguirre <
> carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>> Something to be revised, in my humble point of view.
>> The question is:  When the Individual end user of LAC region could make
>> observation to the procedure on the ALS applications?.
>> Today, only the ALSs and Staff can analize application forms, I think we
>> need to extend the due dilligence to every individual end user (thirds
>> party) who want to say something over ALS applications.
>> I think This is a truly Transparency & could give solution to few our
>> problems on this sense. When everybody know about what happen and can give
>> opinion, for this is needed the real & effective communication of facts for
>> all, and not only for the actors.
>> My position on this point, is general and abstract and nothing have to do
>> directly with the T&T ISOC  application .
>> A thought  in a loud voice: What excellent lost opportunity was the GA in
>> Costa Rica to change & to make better our OPs.
>> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
>> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
>> former ALAC member by LACRALO
>> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
>> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
>> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
>> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
>>
>>
>>> From: staff at atlarge.icann.org
>>> To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
>> lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 15:23:59 -0700
>>> Subject: [lac-discuss-en] Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter
>>      certification
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter was certified on
>> 14-Mar-2012 at the At-Large Regional Leadership Meeting which took place
>> from 12:30 - 14:00, while the first LACRALO General Assembly was
>> 14-Mar-2012 from 17:00-18:00.
>>>
>>> To clarify, once the ALAC approves an applicant, the applicant is
>> accredited.
>>>
>>> The email welcoming the Internet Society Trinidad and Tobago Chapter was
>> simply a courtesy email welcoming the ALS to At-Large.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, and
>> Nathalie Peregrine
>>> ICANN At-Large Staff
>>> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
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