[lac-discuss-en] RES: my comments related the ammendment

Sun Mar 4 16:14:27 UTC 2012

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 Subject: RES: my comments related the ammendment 
 From: vanda at uol.com.br

 Well, my comments based on the WHERE Assumption That All the WG members 
 Were aware of the Proposal, and AGREED With It. 
 If there is no such internal agreement better than to put over the table 
 all other Proposals too, at least to be fair, But Especially to follow the 
 Principles under ICANN. 
 Cintra, your Proposal to invite the review of the At Large's Regional 
 Coordination Team, looks very positive in my opinion and I Encourage the WG, 
 you include to do so! 
 Best and Hugs to tout 

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 From: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome of Cintra 
 Sooknanan 
 Posted in: Sunday, 4 2012 11:19 maro 
 To: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Cc: Heidi Ullrich, ICANN At-Large Staff; 
 lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
 Assunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-en] my comments related the 
 ammendment 

 Greetings LACRALO

 Upon review of the Proposals I express my displeasure Must With The drafting 
 Which totally disregards the Caribbean ALSes Proposals made by Both Publicly 
 on the list and calls, and Internally to the By Law Working Modification 
 Group. The Fact That our point of view was not Captured In This document 
 Clearly Demonstrates That not was the drafter and only chose to Objective 
 Represent the Proposals of herself and a segment of LACRALO. Was this action 
 Meant to our relations fraction sideline and my sub-region further, or is it 
 simply a matter of ignorance on the part of the writer? I ask you to 
 Consider the answer. 

 This vision of the new Proposed lacralo is an administrative blunder. It is 
 top heavy, disregards diversity, usurps the role of ALAC and ICANN, has no 
 Mechanisms for encouraging and shows a clear Participation Lack of 
 Understanding of the Responsibility of Elected members. I am heartened by 
 Vanda hopeful That's contribution and this wisdom will be heeded.I also 
 wish to make a formal request in moving forward That With Any structural 
 Lacralo Changes That We seek advice from our At Large's Regional 
 Coordination Team, who are well Experienced and knowledgeable in this Area, 
 HAVING overseen structural changes file in other Ralos. 

 By way of background I Have Been On this working group since the Cartagena 
 meeting in 2010 and this is the first time there Has Been Any indication of 
 the formation of a board of directors. It is alarming to me that it Has Been 
 Any call to lacralo without discussion and as Represented By the work of the 
 Modification Law Working Group. In Fact, while I am in agreement with 
 Vanda's points, I Differ in her review on point 10) Which Refers to the 
 Lacralo Directory Board. I request the writer of These Proposals to Explain 
 the reasoning behind the lacralo Directory Board and as a matter of urgency 
 to save her reputation by sending a revised draft of Proposals Which 
 Proposed Amendments captures ALL the By Law Modification by the Working 
 Group. 

 Thank you 

 Cintra Sooknanan 

 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM, <vanda at uol.com.br> wrote: 
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>  Subject: my comments related the ammendment
>  From: vanda at uol.com.br
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>  Here my analysis to share with you all related to the Proposal 
> Amendments. I  am not sure my due if I commit with NOMCOMM will will 
> be Able to Participate  in all sessions, so I Decided to share my 
> opinions are With All of you.
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>  Point I have something to say in highlight below.
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>  Points Proposed by one group
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>  1) the right to vote in ALSes of affairs LACRALO Determined by a  
> minimum level of participation
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>  This is positive
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>  2) working languages \u200b\u200bFrench and Portuguese expanded to
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>  I dont see need and may be too expensive. But this is not a main 
> concern '.
>  (But I dont see APRALO working in the more than 20 languages 
> \u200b\u200bThey Have  there
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>  3) Removes the concept of operating by consensus  > From my point of 
> view this is one of ICANNs Principle Against build  consensus
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>  4) creation of Vice President
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>  Those persons can not be added to the normal representation without 
> at ALAC  the decision of ALAC itself. Not for LACRALO to decide. See 
> also below on  item 8
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>  5) terms of President and Vice President for two terms of eligible 2  
> Each years
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>  This make some sense, since representation in ALAC Demands Some 
> degree of  learning, so one year is short term indeed. But the second 
> term Shall Be  one year to allow Others to Participate.
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>  6) creation position of Vice Secretariat
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>  Same vice president of
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>  7) LACRALO would serve to elect 2 persons and 2 Others on ALAC as 
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>  respective alternates (diversity not apply to Marshall Requirements 
> Elected  ALAC member and Their alternate).
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>  I disagree - diversity Shall apply. The Principles of ICANN states on  
> diversity.The concentration of persons from just one country for 
> instance,  Neither is not safe for the Democratic organization. 
> (Imagine if the two  Mexico and Brazil big country clubs decide to 
> make a strong movement to take  over this group, can be all the 
> control positions) really not safe. Must  Have diversity.
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>  8) The alternate or deputy can assume the ALAC rep in case of Any  
> Inability of the primary ALAC rep
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>  I Believe This Shall be submitted to ALAC, We can not decide the next 
> time  member sat to ALAC meeting is another
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>  9) the ALAC member can be re-Elected for a two year term 2nd
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>  Reelection has the Same Principle 1 year for second term to allow 
> Others to  Participate.
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>  10) creation of a LACRALO LACRALO Directory Board with administrative 
> or  and operative functions. This will Comprise the persons Elected in 
> LACRALO  (President, Vice-President, Secretary, Deputy Secretary, the 
> two LACRALO  Elected Representatives and Their alternates to ALAC) and 
> five Policy  Directors who would lead Different working groups within 
> The LACRALO and in  Selecting members within The charge of Their 
> working groups.Policy Directors  would be Elected by the General 
> Assembly by simple Majority.
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>  In my opinion This Will mean too much and not generals to command 
> Troops  Impact but no at all.
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>  3 would be good one member of Caribbean region and two from Latin  
> region too keep at Same Time diversity and be reasonable (there is no  
> members that really works much in so I dont LACRALO believe it will be  
> enough groups to work under 5 policy directors). But not so relevant
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>  11) Establishing elections can take place That Virtually
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>  This is good, but needs clear tools available to Avoid Must be one 
> member  to vote for all the ALS under ITS command - Allow This only 
> after  check the security of the tool.
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>  12) Amendments would be applicable to Existing mandates of President,  
> Secretary
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>  I am not in behalf of That, only if WAS To Have Just One More year term.
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>  Application of the change in benefice of the Existing Elected members 
> looks  manipulation.
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>  Same people can be candidate and be Elected, But Extending the 
> mandate,  looks not Democratic. Thats the way ditactors use to keeping 
> in place  Totally Against.
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>  13) The constitution of the Board of LACRALO be Held after the first  
> Immediately election to be Held at the time of These Amendments be 
> approved.
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>  Not so relevant.
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