[lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Election NomCom lacralo

Fri Aug 5 00:15:08 UTC 2011

Again this is not the point. The point is that if we have a process, relevant or not, internal or external, mandatory or not.. It must be fair.

I understand it's somebody else choice.. But actually we have a process and it has to conclude even if you are not going to consider it at all... (Because of bylaws)

Carlos

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-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:07:31 
To: <cveraq at gmail.com>
Cc: carlos dionisio aguirre<carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>; <ocl at gih.com>; <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ICANN At-Large Staff<staff at atlarge.icann.org>; Presidencia Internauta<presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Election NomCom lacralo

What or Who is this "Your Candidate" referred to   and really  you don't
even need to answer that so treat it as rhetorical....    However worthy of
note is the FACT at this point ALAC does not HAVE any candidate (list
exclusive or otherwise that is complete,  we have asked Regions  for
recommendations  we will consider what we get when we get it from all the
RALO's and then look to appointment from or beyond any list supplied for our
consideration in due course => All based on ICANN ByLaw requirements as it
needs to be.... Simple as that...

Cheryl Langdon-Orr
(CLO)

On 5 August 2011 09:29, <cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe if your candidate win would be better for everybody rigth?
>
> Legal and legitimate.. Does it sound familiar to you?
>
> Hope so
>
> Carlos
>
>
> Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carlos dionisio aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:22:43
> To: <cveraq at gmail.com>; <ocl at gih.com>
> Cc: <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Presidencia Internauta<
> presidencia at internauta.org.ar>; At-Large Staff<staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> Subject: RE: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Election NomCom lacralo
>
>
> Dear Carlos: As Olivier said Bylaws are very clear and precise. doesnt
> matter what email said. The only rules are bylaws and is needed that you
> know it. my two cents.
>
> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
> NCA GNSO Council - ICANN
> former ALAC member by LACRALO
> Abogado - Especialista en Derecho de los Negocios
> Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
> http://ar.ageiadensi.org
>
>
> > From: cveraq at gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:17:10 -0500
> > To: ocl at gih.com
> > CC: lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org;
> presidencia at internauta.org.ar; staff at atlarge.icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] Election NomCom lacralo
> >
> > Dear Oliver:
> >
> > The email with VOTING credential says:
> >
> >
> > "Dear Carlos,
> >
> > We have opened a poll on the LACRALO delegate to NomCom.
> >
> > To access the Poll and vote CLICK HERE.
> >
> > If the above link does not work copy and paste this link to your browser:
> >
> https://www.bigpulse.com/rr?rsoBAFdpmy8MNVCn9ekXeBl9Yh8qYGroLQi2nqTueslQIQ
> >
> > The vote will remain open until Wednesday 03 August 2010 at 1600 UTC.
> >
> > After you have submitted your vote online, you should receive an email
> > confirmation. Please inform staff at atlarge.icann.org if you do not
> receive a
> > confirmation so that we can check whether your vote has been recorded.
> Also,
> > if you are experiencing technical problems and are unable to vote online,
> > you can send us an email. As long as you send us your votes before the
> close
> > of the vote, we can add them as paper ballot votes.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn
> > Vernon
> > ICANN At-Large Staff"
> >
> >
> > In the poll page it says:
> >
> > Who should LACRALO recommend that the ALAC appoint as the 2012 NomCom
> > representative from the Latin American and Caribbean Region, for a one
> year
> > term?
> >
> > SO WE ARE VOTING TO SELECT WHO WILL WE RECOMMEND
> >
> > This is what it is.. A VOTING PROCESS TO SELECT WHO WE WILL RECOMMEND...
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > 2011/8/4 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> >
> > > Dear Carlos,
> > >
> > > this is not an electoral process. The process is the selection by the
> > > ALAC of a candidate to sit in the Nominating Committee. The selection
> > > will be undertaken by the ALAC. The RALOs can forward the list of
> > > candidates they suggest to the ALAC. There is actually no need to make
> a
> > > pre-selection and in fact, a RALO can send a list of more than one
> > > candidate to the ALAC.
> > > The RALO can send advice on as many or as few candidates to the ALAC as
> > > they want, but the final choice is made by the ALAC, not the RALOs.
> > >
> > > For your information, here is a copy of the by-laws regarding NomCom
> > > nominees:
> > >
> > > Section 4. CRITERIA FOR SELECTION OF NOMINATING COMMITTEE DELEGATES
> > >
> > > Delegates to the ICANN Nominating Committee shall be:
> > >
> > > 1. Accomplished persons of integrity, objectivity, and intelligence,
> > > with reputations for sound judgment and open minds, and with experience
> > > and competence with collegial large group decision-making;
> > > 2. Persons with wide contacts, broad experience in the Internet
> > > community, and a commitment to the success of ICANN;
> > > 3. Persons whom the selecting body is confident will consult widely and
> > > accept input in carrying out their responsibilities;
> > > 4. Persons who are neutral and objective, without any fixed personal
> > > commitments to particular individuals, organizations, or commercial
> > > objectives in carrying out their Nominating Committee responsibilities;
> > > 5. Persons with an understanding of ICANN's mission and the potential
> > > impact of ICANN's activities on the broader Internet community who are
> > > willing to serve as volunteers, without compensation other than the
> > > reimbursement of certain expenses; and
> > > 6. Persons who are able to work and communicate in written and spoken
> > > English.
> > >
> > > I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > > On 04/08/2011 21:13, cveraq at gmail.com wrote :
> > > > On yesterday at 16h00 UTC the process was closed after 3 days of
> voting.
> > > In fact I verify this and the web site shows the word CLOSED
> > > >
> > > > After an email from Carlton the process is now open again! No
> questions
> > > asked!
> > > >
> > > > So quick, so bad
> > > >
> > > > Carlos Vera
> > > > Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: presidencia Internauta Argentina <
> presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
> > > > Sender: lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > > > Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:09:05
> > > > To: ICANN At-Large Staff<staff at atlarge.icann.org>; <
> > > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<
> > > ocl at gih.com>
> > > > Reply-To: presidencia at internauta.org.ar
> > > > Subject: [lac-discuss-es] Election NomCom lacralo
> > > >
> > > > Estimates staff members: I am amazed at what I'm reading on a new
> > > > openness of the electoral process, you could give an explanation
> about
> > > > what happens in the election?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
> > > http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
> > >
> > >
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