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apisan at servidor.unam.mx apisan at servidor.unam.mx
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From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx

Sergio, 
 
the voting will close when you want but if we are speaking of the same one  
manifesto, and to is published. 
 
The one of the DNSSEC seems to be condiionando the amplest manifesto. If outside  
thus, we would be throwing the boy along with the water of the bathtub. 
 
I applaud your shipment of subjects for voting. Croe that is a first good step.  
It follows to give to more information and more advance. And not to get tired to explain. 
 
Alexander PIsanty 
 
 
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      Dr Alexander Pisanty 
UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico 
 
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 to presidencia at internauta.org.ar wrote: 
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:14:17 -0300 > From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > Cc: Carlos Quintana Side <cveraq at gmail.com>, > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] SUBJECTS PROPOSED To [ UTF-8] VOTACIÃ~SN IN ALAC >  > Dear Alexander, the voting closes in the day of today. Also I recommend that you read the mail that envie to the list with the subjects to voting and its dates so that you do not incur errors of times. On the other hand it wanted aclararte that subject DNSSEC, is atopico that leaves to light by a explanation that occurred in the liston my position on the subject. > warm Greetings > Sergio > -- mens. original -- > Subject: Re: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] PROPOSED SUBJECTS To VOTACIÃ"n IN ALAC > Of: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > Date: 14/04/2011 13:23 > > Carlos, > > thanks not to save an opportunity to me to follow the subject > in detail by my own means. > > Now!
  I have almost absolute certainty of being able to affirmthe following thing: > > the ALAC manifesto sobrela revisión mandataada by the AoC on > stability, security and robustness of the DNS already was published by ALAC without > to have counted opportunely with the LACRALO vote. > > Cubre tens with spas and subsubjects of importance for the users, and already > està as much published, as mencionÃ&copy;, like in being able del SSR-RT or > Stability, Security, and Resilience of the DNS Review Team, along with > of the Buisness Constituency, the International to hamber ofCommerce, > Registrars, and some experts. > > That is to say, if indeed I do not have myself lost, discusión on if DNSSEC > must be obligatory but gratuitous or to cualuqier another variant it has been > obsolecida course to the irrelevancia. > > Good, but by the meno this time somebody sí leypó what està bamos > having to have discussed. > > Like already mencionÃ&copy; before, I have distinc!
 i´´on to preside over the SSR-RT; no > I can prejuzagar !
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erà the reading of the rest of the RT but without a doubt no > entrarà in details about quiÃ&copy;n votó and quíen no; simnplemente I anticipate > that is considered like posición of ALAC. > > Recomiendo its reading. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Carlos Quintana Side wrote: > > &gt; Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:53:07 +0000 > &gt; From: Carlos Quintana Side <cv!
 eraq at gmail.com> > &gt; To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > &gt; Cc: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar, lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; Subject: > &gt; =?Windows-1252?B?UmU6IFtsYWMtZGlzY3Vzcy1lc10JVEVNQVMgUFJPUFVFU1RPUyBBIFZPV > &gt; EFDSdNOIEVOIEFMQUM = = > &gt; > &gt; the interchange this equal few hours above, and if already I am finished the process now is necessary to turn around to the result and its consequences. > &gt; > &gt; Carlos > &gt; -----Original Message > &gt; From: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > &gt; Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:46:59 > &gt; To: Carlos Quintana Side<cveraq at gmail.com> > &gt; Cc: <presidencia at internauta.org.ar>; <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] PROPOSED SUBJECTS To VOTACIÃ"n E > &gt; N ALAC > &gt; > &gt; Carlos, colleagues, > &gt; > &gt; to see if enteindo: > &gt; > &gt; Â we are condiconando all the vote on the SSR-RT [ that Ipreside over, for that reason !
 > &gt; sólo busoc aclaración ] to situación of which !
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ices of DNSSEC > &gt; is onerous or gratuitous?  and it, on a consultation that cerró yesterday? > &gt; > &gt; agradecerà the clarity. This way, but I excuses pedirl adee > &gt; encounter of trip in país in which not all the services of Internet > &gt; està n available, which as well forces to accede of ways that > &gt; acambio to open some obstructs all. One becomes specially > &gt; complicated the retrospective tracking of these conversations. > &gt; > &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; > &gt; > &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; > &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; > &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; > &gt!
 ; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; On Thu, 14 Apr 2011, Carlos Quintana Side wrote: > &gt; > &gt; &gt; Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:57:23 +0000 > &gt; &gt; From: Carlos Quintana Side <cveraq at gmail.com> > &gt; &gt; To: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > &gt; &gt; Cc: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ Windows-1252 ] PROPOSED SUBJECTS To VOTACIÃ"n IN > &gt; &gt; ALAC > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Dear friend and colleagues: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; soon does not have but options of being IF conditional for several reasons but the main one is that > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; 1. There are interests in game that with did not remainquiet. IF ademas is a business so that it moves single > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; IF for the same reasons has less probability of being restricted. > &g!
 t; &gt; > &gt; &gt; votaria I NOT and who move to IF condition!
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gica. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Carlos > &gt; &gt; -----Original Message > &gt; &gt; From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > &gt; &gt; Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:55:42 > &gt; &gt; To: <cveraq at gmail.com> > &gt; &gt; Reply-To: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > &gt; &gt; Cc: <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-es]TEMAS PROPOSED To VOTACIà " > &gt; &gt; N IN ALAC > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Carlos I agree with vos in your glance but I believe that the vote debería of > &gt; &gt; to be "IF" and to put some contributions in the "field observations" so that > &gt; &gt; can consider in the future and looking for the way thatthat cost > &gt; &gt; in certain cases (as vos good describís) is assimilated by > &gt; &gt; company and not by the user. > &gt; &gt; an affectionate greeting! > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Asociación > &gt; &gt; Argentina de Usuarios de!
  Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > &gt; &gt; Latin American Federación of Users of Internet > &gt; &gt; <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > &gt; &gt; twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > &gt; &gt; Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; "Ojalà we pruned to be disobedient, whenever we received órdenes that > &gt; &gt; humiliates our conscience or violates our sense común "- Eduardo > &gt; &gt; Galeano- > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; the 13/04/2011 10:35 a.m., Carlos Quintana Side escribió: > &gt; &gt; &gt; Acabe buying several dominions and the recorder offers DNSSEC like option with cost. Nonmemory now the value but that me desestimulo. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; deberia to vow NOT because the cost is a tie for the expansion of normal users. Soon debera trrabajar a serrie of norms to return obl!
 igatory in some cases DNSSEC for example command post institut!
 ions or 
companies financial, that receive payments, governmental, etc > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; the same norm deberia to contemplate the nonobligation for example in case of redireccionamientos to dominions that already have DNSSEC > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Carlos Side > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message > &gt; &gt; &gt; From: "Alberto Grove"<asoto at ibero-americano.org> > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:25:32 > &gt; &gt; &gt; To:<presidencia at internauta.org.ar>;<lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] > &gt; &gt; &gt; PROPOSED SUBJECTS To VOTACIÃ"n IN > &gt; &gt; &gt; ALAC > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sergio, reciÃ&copy;n I am getting up myself after long time and in some > &gt; &gt; &gt; things tardarÃ&copy; in putting me to día. Parecería that not està s so in agreement in > &gt; &gt;!
  &gt; obligatory nature of the company/signature of DNSSEC,but in one recomendación of "very > &gt; &gt; &gt; advisable "or of" better prà cticas ". It seems reasonable so that there are costs > &gt; &gt; &gt; associated that single deberían to be assumed in certain conditions. > &gt; &gt; &gt; can vote IF with that observación? Or for that reason debería to vow no? > &gt; &gt; &gt; warm Greetings > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Alberto Grove > &gt; &gt; &gt; IIISI > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; original -----Mensaje > &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > &gt; &gt; &gt; presidency Argentina Internaut > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: MiÃ&copy;rcoles, 13 of April of 2011 10:05 a.m. > &gt; &gt; &gt; For: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] PROPOSED SUBJECTS To VOTACIÃ"n IN ALAC > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt!
 ; &gt; &gt; Considered compañeros of the LACRALO: > &gt; &g!
 t; &gt; 
Hay two subjects that have been sent to votación in ALAC: > &gt; &gt; &gt; * 1) * ALAC Statement on the Stability, Security, and Resilience of the > &gt; &gt; &gt; DNS Review Team (SSR-Team) - ALAC Declaración on thestability, > &gt; &gt; &gt; security and capacity of recuperación of the Equipment of Revisión of DNS > &gt; &gt; &gt; (SSR-Team) - * Overcomes día 15 of April - * > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; If it does not have nobody is against or has a different point of view that > &gt; &gt; &gt; makes change my posición gustaría to vote to me by * "IF". * > &gt; &gt; &gt; I must indicate nevertheless, that in reference to point 4 of the report I follow > &gt; &gt; &gt; the line that exposed Cheryl with respect to DNSSEC > &gt; &gt; &gt; (https://community.icann.org/display/alacdocs/ALAC+Statement+on+the+Stabilit > &gt; &gt; &gt; y%2C+Security%2C+and+Resilience+of+the+DNS+Review+Team+%28SSR-Team%29?focuse > &gt; &gt; &gt; dCommentId=13861602&#commen!
 t-13861602) > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2) * ALAC Statement on the WHOIS Review Team's RFC onScope of Work and > &gt; &gt; &gt; Roadmap, Outreach and Action for Plans WHOIS Review Exercise - April > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2011- Declaración of ALAC of the equipment of revisión WHOIS RFC in à mbito > &gt; &gt; &gt; of work and plan of work, Outreach and the plan of acción for > &gt; &gt; &gt; exercise of WHOIS Review- April 2011 - * It overcomesthe 16 of April > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * If it does not have nobody is against or has a different point of view that > &gt; &gt; &gt; makes change my posición gustaría to vote to me by * "IF". * > &gt; &gt; &gt; For that they want to read something on this can enter a: > &gt; &gt; &gt; https://community.icann.org/display/alacdocs/ALAC+Statement+on+the+Whois+Rev > &gt; &gt; &gt; iew+Team%27s+RFC+on+Scope+of+Work+and+Roadmap%2C+Outreach+and+Action+Plans+f > &gt; &gt; &gt; or+Whois+Review+Exerci!
 se+-+April+2011 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Whose relato!
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r compañero of THIN Carlton Samuels. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sugiero takes a reading of the document in cuestión,since it is very > &gt; &gt; &gt; rich and interesting declaración made. > &gt; &gt; &gt; TambiÃ&copy;n I believe that in this podría to contribute to something Carlton like stops > &gt; &gt; &gt; to illuminate us but on this subject to all the list and to make a species of > &gt; &gt; &gt; intreach (if it is possible and it has time) > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; to finalize, single a reference to mails sent by Jacqueline > &gt; &gt; &gt; to the list on if the ALAC Members we make or not ourwork, no > &gt; &gt; &gt; attempt to argue on this, but if I must at least markone > &gt; &gt; &gt; posición on the same one, since I have assumed I have sent mayoría of > &gt; &gt; &gt; the subjects that have been put in votación, and single on two ocassions no > &gt; &gt; &gt; I have voted, first by to have had problems with my PC and seco!
 nd > &gt; &gt; &gt; by to have found to me in trip, nevertheless seems that we demanded what > &gt; &gt; &gt; in our times to be in ALAC we have not made... if badly no > &gt; &gt; &gt; memory two members of LACRALO occupied spaces like chair and vice > &gt; &gt; &gt; to chair (one was jacqueline and the other josÃ&copy; Ovid)... quizà s habría that > &gt; &gt; &gt; to review whatever mails sent to a the list to generate participación > &gt; &gt; &gt; and to gather what we, the ALS of Latin&copy;rich Amà and the Caribbean > &gt; &gt; &gt; pensà bamos... can be that we are with a surprise... > &gt; &gt; &gt; warm Greetings > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; > &gt; > > 
 
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