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amedinagomez at gmail.com
amedinagomez at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 15:45:28 UTC 2011
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From: amedinagomez at gmail.com
We spoke of the same but we have totally different perspective.
The process is been worth and you mention lost... I on the contrary
I identify gains. Acquired experience and knowledge. These are
elements of great value.
I even see that it offers knowledge to the members of the Thin one andspaces of
reflection and analisis that do not habian suitably considered.
Antonio
The 7 of April of 2011 10:36, Sooknanan Arch
<cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com>it wrote:
> Dear Antonio, > > for You raise to valid point that you have the right to run secretariat and > also to withdraw for valid reasons, but unfortunately it is because you have > not expressed to U.S. what these valid reasons plows that there have been calls > for to penalty. > > I believe this is to ensure that our election process is notmade to mockery > of in the future. Scenario This only creates wastage of our and staff's > Time; and also breaks confidence in the nomination and electoral system ace a > whole. > > Best regards > Arch > > > 2011/4/7 Antonio Medina Go'mez <amedinagomez at gmail.com> > > > I am kind to the development of the different interventions and consider > > opportune manfestar to me. > > the postulation to the position of the secretary of Lacralo makes it like one > > expression of will to work by the development of the region. I believe that > > this is a reason sufficiently been worth which cannot be exposed a > > sanctions that have !
not been established in our Thin one. > > Like representative of ACUI and ALS activates and that works of way > > permanent in diverse scene, work groups, meetings, > > conferences > > and to traves of interventions in the list, elements that have been considered > > last and that is object of analisisi and discussion, I must say to them > > that > > is not our case. > > > > I am in a position legitimizes in representation of an active ALS and > > to postulate to a position and later to retire my name forvalued reasons > > that sustains this decision, cannot, under no circumstanceto be > > considered like a performance that determines a later sanction. In > > electing processes, in which somehow we have right nobody > > ALS must right to participate must do it. And while they do not exist > > elements > > established previously, which is said can be considered like > > speculations since they previously do not have a decide!
d sustenance. > > > > In such sense I hope that the elec!
toral pr
ocess is followed, which in ningun > > moment was informed appropriately by the representatives, and who we follow > > working by the normal development of the propose activities in > > benefit of our Thin one and our region. > > > > Antonio Medina Gomez > > President > > Colombian Association of Users of Internet > > the 7 of April of 2011 09:49, Andrés Piazza <andrespiazza at gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > > > Vanda, Sergio, Jacqueline, Natalia: > > > > > > a pleasure to receive its ideas. He is accidentally one of those moments where > > > this impelling a reform of the Statutes, as they know well, and > > > in which (finally and after much effort dedicated to it)I create > > > that we are closely together to approve it (requires 66%of Voto > > > Weighed to do it). > > > > > > As one is To modify the Rules of Procedure in this case > > > (the Articles which I mentioned in my initial m!
ail) and not them Principles > > > Operative, I believe that deberiamos to take advantage of the situation. But either > > > is a escencial subject (As if he is it clausula of > > > participation, to which we have dedicated enormous debate to him until arriving > > > to the point in which we are today). > > > > > > We must come from the following form. To culminate the reform with > > > points that we have worked during a year and to allow from happiness > > > reform, that a commission (single to the aims to work subjects > > > prescribed) makes this modification by consensus. We cannot > > > to expand to another year but this previous modification. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Andrés Piazza > > > > > > The 07/04/11, Natalia Enciso <natalia.enciso at gmail.com> it wrote: > > > > Hello to tod at s! > > > > Coincido with Vanda and Sergio: an electoral regulation !
makes lack like > > guide > > > > to know how that!
to do i
n these circumstances, not excessively > > > > reglamentarista but frame as Carlos proposed Side. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Natalia Enciso > > > > APADIT > > > > > > > > the 7 of April of 2011 09:58, presidency Argentina Internaut < > > > > to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Coincido with the exposed thing by Vanda. I think, as I showed it in > > > > > teleconferencing, that within the procedure rules we would have > > > > > to see have a special section with the electoral procedure > > > > > considering these cases. > > > > > Creo that Jaqueline to dice in the solution of which one would be due to do > > in > > > > > this special case. > > > > > Despite I believe that some mails that they arose in the list thinking > > > > > that we had to put "sanctions" not to appear to a sel!
ection or in > > his > > > > > defect to stop to participate in her sounds little appropriate, on > > everything > > > > > so that the sanction but hard that could occur (notto be able to appear > > in > > > > > those selections) already was given by the same companion of our thin one > > that > > > > > decided car to exclude itself from the selection. > > > > > Nobody can be sanctioned by the fact of will declare freely,of > > > > > to appear to selections or does not conform its free will and his > > > conscience. > > > > > > > > > > Warm Greetings > > > > > > > > > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > > > > > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar > > > FLUI- > > > > > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > > > > > <http://www!
.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > >!
; > &
gt; > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > > > > > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > "Hopefully we pruned to be disobedient, whenever wereceived orders that > > > > > humiliates our conscience or violates our common sense "- Eduardo > > > > > Galeano- > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 07/04/2011 10:00 a.m., Vanda UOL wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends > > > > > > Creo to be tempo to review the our previous decisions and to think > > command post > > > > > > to change to our statutes for something more rational in relation to > > > ours > > > > > > selections. > > > > > > We can put center in this during this year? That they think? > > > > !
> > Hugs to all > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends > > > > > > I believe is Time to rethink our past decisions and focus in > > change > > > > > > our > > > > > > bylaws, bringing to dwells rational way to elect our representatives. > > > > > > for Could we focus on this the to year? What do you think? > > > > > > Best to all > > > > > > > > > > > > Vanda Scartezini > > > > > > Pole Consulting Associados > > > > > > IT Trend > > > > > > Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 -- 1407,8 > > > > > > 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil > > > > > > Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > > > > > > Mob + 55118181.1464 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > > > > > > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at a!
tlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > [ mailto:lac!
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-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > > > Jose > > > > > > Ovid Salgueiro > > > > > > Shipment command post: quarta-feira, 6 of April of 2011 20:51 > > > > > > For: ' Andrés Piazzá; ' LACRALO Español' > > > > > > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Secretary of LACRALO > > > > > > > > > > > > In that I am clear and is valid for both cases, the past and > > > present. > > > > > > > > > > > that I say is that as is ridiculous, we try to correct it for > > > future > > > > > > and > > > > > if > > > > > > fits, to impose a penalty. > > > > > > > > > > > > Insisto on which at this moment the only possiblesanction for that > > us > > > > > > lead to this situation is of moral character > > > > > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > > JOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > > > > > > Of: Andrés Piazza [ mailto:andrespiazza at gmail.com ] Sent: > > > Wednesday, > > > > > 06 > > > > > > of April of 2011 06:37 p.m. > > > > > > For: Jose Ovid Salgueiro; Spanish LACRALO > > > > > > Subject: Re: Voting Secretary of LACRALO > > > > > > > > > > > > Jose: > > > > > > > > > > > > Creeme that stops my was enough desanimante to have to dedicate hours > > a > > > > > this > > > > > > process, since I did it. But via is no institutional other > > stops > > > > > > to come different from this, there are deliberateand us parecio but > > > > > appropriate > > > >!
> > that to end up suspending a voting... > > > &!
gt; >
> > > > > > > Recorda that when we chose the Representative to ALAC in 2008, Carlos > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > unico candidate and we had to vote. In that occasion he was a little > > > > > different, > > > > > > since a ALS pidio that the voting is made when always > > was > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > the unico candidate. In this case one retires andit leaves us in > > same > > > > > > situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can sound ridiculo somewhat, but it is the optionthat we have left of > > > > > > Agreement > > > > > a > > > > > > the Rules of Procedure. > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrés > > > > > > > > > > > > The 06/04/11, Jose Ovid Salgueiro<salgu!
eiro.jo at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > seems unusual to Me that it must follow a voting with > > single > > > > > > > candidate. He is totally ridiculous and this discredits to ours > > > > > > institution. > > > > > > > Entiendo that it is not possible to be sanctioned to Antonio to retire once > > > > > > begun > > > > > > > the voting process since the possible sanction was not > > > > > > > established in previous form, but I believe that of this experience > > > must > > > > > > > to learn and to take > > > > > > > > > > > > > corrective necessary so that this situation does not become a > > > > > > > to present/display. > > > > > > > We must incorporate an exemplary sanction in our statutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > >!
; > the possible sanction could not be but that moral. > &g!
t; >
> > > > > > > > > > > In addition to the time of the members of the LACRALO to have to avoid > > > > > > > votes in a selection of a single candidate, hasbeen incurred > > expenses > > > > > > > when organizing > > > > > > > > > > > > > voting process that ends up being unnecessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > > > > > > > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name > > of > > > > > > Andrés > > > > > > > Piazza > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 06!
of April of 2011 04:16 p.m. > > > > > > > For: Spanish LACRALO > > > > > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Secretary ofLACRALO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (English Official Version in a separated email) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Miembros of LACRALO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I communicated to them in the Teleconferencing of the Day of Yesterday, > > > > > > > process > > > > > > of > > > > > > > voting online to choose the Secretary of LACRALO began > > day > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > 28 > > > > > > > of March of 2011 with 2 candidates: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * the acual secretary, Dev Anand Teelucksingh de Trinidad and Tobago > > > > > > Computer > >!
; > > > > > Society (TTCS) > > > > >!
; > &
gt; * Antonio Medina Gomez of Colombian Associationof Users of > > > > > > > Internet (ACUI)i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > day 23 of March of 2011, Antonio Medina Gomez accepted his > > nomination > > > > > > > - autonominación- and day 31 of March notifiedthe retirement of his > > > > > > > candidacy for Secretary of LACRALO, leaving only a candidate > > > stops > > > > > > > the position of Secretary of LACRALO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since the vote already had begun, an overhaul of > > documents > > > of > > > > > > > LACRALO organization was made to determine the form more > > > > > > > appropriate > > > > > > of > > > > > > > to continue with the following steps: > > > > > > > (https://community.icann.org/x/Oo0i) > > !
> > > > > > > > > > > > In the interest to maintain the integrity of this process > > election, > > > > > > > the selection of the Secretary will continue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there is sólamente a candidate, the voters can choose > > between > > > > > > > that only candidate: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dev Anand Teelucksingh from Trinidad de Tobago Computer Society > > > > > > > (TTCS) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or by the abstention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since LACRALO is taking ahead a General Assembly > > Virtual > > > > > > > for this selection (meaning that all 3ÃLSs in LACRALO > > > is > > > > > > present > > > > > > > and voting), by Rule 12,2 and 19 !
of the Rules of Procedure > > of > > > > > >!
> LA
CRALO, at least 19 ALSes MUST vote by the only candidate stops > > > that > > > > > > > the results can be mentioned (ALSs that vote byabstention > > > will be > > > > > > > considered for this respect as if they had not voted). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there were deliberations to make this decision, the date > > > limit > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > selection for the Secretary of LACRALO has beenextended to Tuesday > > 12 > > > > > > > of April 2011 to the 23:59 emitted UTC and the 7 votes will be > > erased > > > > > > > until the moment, being sent again the credentials to > > > > > > > delegated of each > > > > > > ALS > > > > > > > so that they emit his vote again. > > > > > > > > > > > > !
> > Warm Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrés Piazza > > > > > > > President of LACRALO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > * Andrés Piazza * > > > > > > > www.andrespiazza.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > > > > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sent from my movable device > > > > > > > > > > > > * Andrés Piazza * > > > > > > www.andrespiazza!
.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > &!
gt; >
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