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cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 15:37:26 UTC 2011


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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Votaci=F3n_Secretario_de_LACRALO =
From: cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com

Dear Antonio, 
 
For You raise to valid point that you have the right to run secretariat and 
also to withdraw for valid reasons, but unfortunately it is because you have 
not expressed to U.S. what these valid reasons plows that therehave been calls 
for to penalty. 
 
I believe this is to ensure that our election process is not made to mockery 
of in the future. Scenario This only creates wastage of our andstaff's 
Time; and also breaks confidence in the nomination and electoral system ace a 
whole. 
 
Best regards 
Arch 
 
2011/4/7 Antonio Medina Go'mez <amedinagomez at gmail.com> 
> I am kind to the development of the different interventions and consider > opportune manfestar to me. > the postulation to the position of the secretary of Lacralo makes itlike one > expression of will to work by the development of the region.I believe that > this is a reason sufficiently been worth which cannot be exposed a > sanctions that have not been established in our Thin one. > Like representative of ACUI and ALS activates and that works of way > permanent in diverse scene, work groups, meetings, > conferences > and to traves of interventions in the list, elements that have been considered > last and that is object of analisisi and discussion, I must say to them that > is not our case. > > I am in a position legitimizes in representation of an active ALS and > to postulate to a position and later to retire my name for valued reasons > that sustains this decision, cannot, under no circumstance to be > considered like a performance that determines a later sanction. I!
 n > electing processes, in which somehow we have right nobody > ALS must right to participate must do it. And while they do not exist > elements > established previously, which is said can be considered like > speculations since they previously do not have a decided sustenance. > > In such sense I hope that the electoral process is followed,which in ningun > moment was informed appropriately by the representatives, and who we follow > working by the normal development of the propose activities in > benefit of our Thin one and our region. > > Antonio Medina Gomez > President > Colombian Association of Users of Internet > the 7 of April of 2011 09:49, Andrés Piazza <andrespiazza at gmail.com > &gt; wrote: > > &gt; Vanda, Sergio, Jacqueline, Natalia: > &gt; > &gt; a pleasure to receive its ideas. He is accidentally one ofthose moments where > &gt; this impelling a reform of the Statutes, as they know well, and > &gt; in which (finally and after much effort dedicated to it) Icrea!
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Voto > &gt; Weighed to do it). > &gt; > &gt; As one is To modify the Rules of Procedure in this case > &gt; (the Articles which I mentioned in my initial mail) and not them Principles > &gt; Operative, I believe that deberiamos to take advantage of the situation. But either > &gt; is a escencial subject (As if he is it clausula of > &gt; participation, to which we have dedicated enormous debate to him until arriving > &gt; to the point in which we are today). > &gt; > &gt; We must come from the following form. To culminate the reform with > &gt; points that we have worked during a year and to allow fromhappiness > &gt; reform, that a commission (single to the aims to work subjects > &gt; prescribed) makes this modification by consensus. We cannot > &gt; to expand to another year but this previous modification. > &gt; > &gt; Greetings, > &gt; > &gt; Andrés Piazza > &gt; > &gt; The 07/04/11, Natalia Enciso <natalia.enciso at gmail.com> it wrote: > &gt; &gt; Hello to tod at s! > &gt!
 ; &gt; Coincido with Vanda and Sergio: an electoral regulation makes lack like > guide > &gt; &gt; to know how that to do in these circumstances, not excessively > &gt; &gt; reglamentarista but frame as Carlos proposed Side. > &gt; &gt; Greetings, > &gt; &gt; Natalia Enciso > &gt; &gt; APADIT > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; the 7 of April of 2011 09:58, presidency Argentina Internaut < > &gt; &gt; to presidencia at internauta.org.ar &gt; wrote: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Coincido with the exposed thing by Vanda. I think, as I showed it in > &gt; &gt; &gt; teleconferencing, that within the procedure rules we would have > &gt; &gt; &gt; to see have a special section with the electoral procedure > &gt; &gt; &gt; considering these cases. > &gt; &gt; &gt; Creo that Jaqueline to dice in the solution of which one wouldbe due to do in > &gt; &gt; &gt; this special case. > &gt; &gt; &gt; Despite I believe that some mails that they arose in the list thinking > &gt; &gt; &gt; that we had to pu!
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; defect to stop to participate in her sounds little appropriate, on > everything > &gt; &gt; &gt; so that the sanction but hard that could occur (not tobe able to appear > in > &gt; &gt; &gt; those selections) already was given by the same companion of our thin one > that > &gt; &gt; &gt; decided car to exclude itself from the selection. > &gt; &gt; &gt; Nobody can be sanctioned by the fact of will declare freely, of > &gt; &gt; &gt; to appear to selections or does not conform its free will and his > &gt; conscience. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Warm Greetings > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > &gt; &gt; &gt; Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > &gt; &gt; &gt; Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > &gt; &gt; &gt; <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > &gt; &gt; &gt; twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > &g!
 t; &gt; &gt; Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; "Hopefully we pruned to be disobedient, whenever we received orders that > &gt; &gt; &gt; humiliates our conscience or violates our common sense "- Eduardo > &gt; &gt; &gt; Galeano- > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; the 07/04/2011 10:00 a.m., Vanda UOL wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear friends > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Creo to be tempo to review the our previous decisions and to think > command post > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to change to our statutes for something more rational in relation to > &gt; ours > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; selections. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We can put center in this during this year? That they think? > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hugs to all > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear friends > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I believe is Time to rethink our past decisions andfocus in > change!
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wells rational way to elect our representatives. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for Could we focus on this the to year? What do you think? > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Best to all > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Vanda Scartezini > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Pole Consulting Associados > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; IT Trend > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 -- 1407,8 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mob + 55118181.1464 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Mensagem original > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > &gt; Jose > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Ovid Salgueiro > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Shipment command post: quarta-feira, 6 of April of 2011 20:51 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; For: ' Andrés Piazzá; ' LACRALO Español' > &gt; &gt; &gt; !
 &gt; Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Secretary ofLACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In that I am clear and is valid for both cases, thepast and > &gt; present. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; that I say is that as is ridiculous, we try to correct it for > &gt; future > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and > &gt; &gt; &gt; if > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; fits, to impose a penalty. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Insisto on which at this moment the only possible sanction for that > us > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lead to this situation is of moral character > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; JOS > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; original -----Mensaje > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: Andrés Piazza [ mailto:andrespiazza at gmail.com ] Sent: > &gt; Wednesday, > &gt; &gt; &gt; 06 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of April of 2011 06:37 p.m. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; For: Jose Ovid Sa!
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retary of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Jose: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Creeme that stops my was enough desanimante to haveto dedicate hours > a > &gt; &gt; &gt; this > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; process, since I did it. But via is no institutional other > stops > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to come different from this, there are deliberate and us parecio but > &gt; &gt; &gt; appropriate > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; that to end up suspending a voting... > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Recorda that when we chose the Representative to ALAC in 2008, Carlos > &gt; was > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; unico candidate and we had to vote. In that occasion he was a little > &gt; &gt; &gt; different, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; since a ALS pidio that the voting is made when always > was > &gt; &gt; &gt; Carlos > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the unico candidate. In this case one retires and it leaves us in > same > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; situation. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &!
 gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Can sound ridiculo somewhat, but it is the option that we have left of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Agreement > &gt; &gt; &gt; a > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the Rules of Procedure. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Greetings, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The 06/04/11, Jose Ovid Salgueiro<salgueiro.jo at gmail.com> > wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; seems unusual to Me that it must follow a voting with a single one > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; candidate. He is totally ridiculous and this discredits to ours > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; institution. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Entiendo that it is not possible to be sanctioned to Antonio to retire once > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; begun > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the voting process since the possible sanction was not > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; established in previous form, but I believe that of this experience > &gt; must > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to learn !
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e necessary so that this situation does not become a > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to present/display. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We must incorporate an exemplary sanction in our statutes. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the possible sanction could not be but that moral. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In addition to the time of the members of the LACRALO to have to avoid > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; votes in a selection of a single candidate, has been incurred > expenses > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; when organizing > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; voting process that ends up being unnecessary. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; JOS > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; original -----Mensaje > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt!
 ; &gt; &gt; &gt; [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name > of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Piazza > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, 06 of April of 2011 04:16 p.m. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; For: Spanish LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Secretary of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (English Official Version in a separated email) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear Miembros of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; As I communicated to them in the Teleconferencingof the Day of Yesterday, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; process > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; voting online to choose the Secretary of LACRALO began the day > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Monday > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 28 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of March of 2011 with 2 candidates: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;!
  &gt; * the acual secretary, Dev Anand Teelucksingh de Trinida!
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bago > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Computer > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Society (TTCS) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Antonio Medina Gomez of Colombian Association of Users of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Internet (ACUI)i > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; day 23 of March of 2011, Antonio Medina Gomez accepted his > nomination > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - autonominación- and day 31 of March notified the retirement of his > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; candidacy for Secretary of LACRALO, leaving only a candidate > &gt; stops > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the position of Secretary of LACRALO. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since the vote already had begun, an overhaul of documents > &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; LACRALO organization was made to determine the form more > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; appropriate > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to continue with the following steps: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (https://community.icann.org!
 /x/Oo0i) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In the interest to maintain the integrity of thisprocess > election, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the selection of the Secretary will continue. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since there is sólamente a candidate, the voterscan choose > between > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; that only candidate: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - Dev Anand Teelucksingh from Trinidad de Tobago Computer Society > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (TTCS) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Or by the abstention. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since LACRALO is taking ahead a General Assembly > Virtual > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for this selection (meaning that all 3ÃLSs in LACRALO > &gt; is > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; present > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and voting), by Rule 12,2 and 19 of the Rules of Procedure > of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; LACRALO, at least 19 ALSes M!
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 &gt; the results can be mentioned (ALSs that vote by abstention > &gt; will be > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; considered for this respect as if they had not voted). > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since there were deliberations to make this decision, the date > &gt; limit > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; selection for the Secretary of LACRALO has been extended to Tuesday > 12 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of April 2011 to the 23:59 emitted UTC and the 7 votes will be erased > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; until the moment, being sent again the credentials to > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; delegated of each > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ALS > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; so that they emit his vote again. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Warm Greetings, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés Piazza > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; President of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;!
  &gt; -- > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Andrés Piazza * > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -- > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent from my movable device > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Andrés Piazza * > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman!
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ttp://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; -- > &gt; &gt; natalia.enciso at gmail.com > &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-l!
 ists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; > &gt; > &gt; -- > &gt; Sent from my movable device > &gt; > &gt; * Andrés Piazza * > &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; > &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; > &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > 
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