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natalia.enciso at gmail.com natalia.enciso at gmail.com
Thu Apr 7 14:51:38 UTC 2011


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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Votaci=F3n_Secretario_de_LACRALO =
From: natalia.enciso at gmail.com

In Andrés agreement. 
 
The 7 of April of 2011 10:49, Andrés Piazza <andrespiazza at gmail.com>it wrote: 
> Vanda, Sergio, Jacqueline, Natalia: > > a pleasure to receive its ideas. He is accidentally one of those moments where > this impelling a reform of the Statutes, as they know well, and > in which (finally and after much effort dedicated to it) I create > that we are closely together to approve it (requires 66% of Voto > Weighed to do it). > > As one is To modify the Rules of Procedure in this case > (the Articles which I mentioned in my initial mail) and not them Principles > Operative, I believe that deberiamos to take advantage of the situation. But either > is a escencial subject (As if he is it clausula of > participation, to which we have dedicated enormous debate tohim until arriving > to the point in which we are today). > > We must come from the following form. To culminate the reform with > points that we have worked during a year and to allow from happiness > reform, that a commission (single to the aims to work subjects > prescribed) makes this modification by c!
 onsensus. We cannot > to expand to another year but this previous modification. > > Greetings, > > Andrés Piazza > > The 07/04/11, Natalia Enciso <natalia.enciso at gmail.com> it wrote: > &gt; Hello to tod at s! > &gt; Coincido with Vanda and Sergio: an electoral regulation like guidemakes lack > &gt; to know how that to do in these circumstances, not excessively > &gt; reglamentarista but frame as Carlos proposed Side. > &gt; Greetings, > &gt; Natalia Enciso > &gt; APADIT > &gt; > &gt; the 7 of April of 2011 09:58, presidency Argentina Internaut < > &gt; to presidencia at internauta.org.ar &gt; wrote: > &gt; > &gt; &gt; Coincido with the exposed thing by Vanda. I think, as I showed it in > &gt; &gt; teleconferencing, that within the procedure rules we would have > &gt; &gt; to see have a special section with the electoral procedure > &gt; &gt; considering these cases. > &gt; &gt; Creo that Jaqueline to dice in the solution of which one would be due to do in > &gt; &gt; this special!
  case. > &gt; &gt; Despite I believe that some mails that they!
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n the list thinking > &gt; &gt; that we had to put "sanctions" not to appear to a selection or in his > &gt; &gt; defect to stop to participate in her sounds little appropriate, mainly > &gt; &gt; so that the sanction but hard that could occur (not to be able to appear in > &gt; &gt; those selections) already was given by the same companion of our thin one who > &gt; &gt; decided car to exclude itself from the selection. > &gt; &gt; Nobody can be sanctioned by the fact of will declare freely, of > &gt; &gt; to appear to selections or does not conform its free will and his > conscience. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Warm Greetings > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > &gt; &gt; Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > &gt; &gt; Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > &gt; &gt; <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > &gt; &gt; twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAH!
 OO/Talk: salinasporto... > &gt; &gt; Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; "Hopefully we pruned to be disobedient, whenever we received orders that > &gt; &gt; humiliates our conscience or violates our common sense "- Eduardo > &gt; &gt; Galeano- > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; the 07/04/2011 10:00 a.m., Vanda UOL wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear friends > &gt; &gt; &gt; Creo to be tempo to review the our previous decisions and to think command post > &gt; &gt; &gt; to change to our statutes for something more rational in relation to > ours > &gt; &gt; &gt; selections. > &gt; &gt; &gt; We can put center in this during this year? That they think? > &gt; &gt; &gt; Hugs to all > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear friends > &gt; &gt; &gt; I believe is Time to rethink our past decisions and focus in change > &gt; &gt; &gt; our > &gt; &gt; &gt; bylaws, bringing to dwells rational way to el!
 ect our representatives. > &gt; &gt; &gt; for Could we focus o!
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he to year? What do you think? > &gt; &gt; &gt; Best to all > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Vanda Scartezini > &gt; &gt; &gt; Pole Consulting Associados > &gt; &gt; &gt; IT Trend > &gt; &gt; &gt; Tree-lined avenue Holy 1470 -- 1407,8 > &gt; &gt; &gt; 01418-903 São Paulo, SP, Brazil > &gt; &gt; &gt; Tel + 5511 3266.6253 > &gt; &gt; &gt; Mob + 55118181.1464 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Mensagem original > &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > Jose > &gt; &gt; &gt; Ovid Salgueiro > &gt; &gt; &gt; Shipment command post: quarta-feira, 6 of April of 2011 20:51 > &gt; &gt; &gt; For: ' Andrés Piazzá; ' LACRALO Español' > &gt; &gt; &gt; Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Secretary of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; In that I am clear and is valid for both cases, the past and > present. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt;!
  &gt; that I say is that as is ridiculous, we try to correct it for > future > &gt; &gt; &gt; and > &gt; &gt; if > &gt; &gt; &gt; fits, to impose a penalty. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Insisto on which at this moment the only possible sanction for that us > &gt; &gt; &gt; lead to this situation is of moral character > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; JOS > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; original -----Mensaje > &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: Andrés Piazza [ mailto:andrespiazza at gmail.com ] Sent: > Wednesday, > &gt; &gt; 06 > &gt; &gt; &gt; of April of 2011 06:37 p.m. > &gt; &gt; &gt; For: Jose Ovid Salgueiro; Spanish LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: Voting Secretary of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Jose: > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Creeme that stops my was enough desanimante to have to dedicate hours a > &gt; &gt; this > &gt; &gt; &gt; process, since I did it. But via is no institutional oth!
 er stops > &gt; &gt; &gt; to come different from this, there a!
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erate andus parecio but > &gt; &gt; appropriate > &gt; &gt; &gt; that to end up suspending a voting... > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Recorda that when we chose the Representative to ALACin 2008, Carlos > was > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; unico candidate and we had to vote. In that occasion he was a little > &gt; &gt; different, > &gt; &gt; &gt; since a ALS pidio that the voting is made when alwaysit was > &gt; &gt; Carlos > &gt; &gt; &gt; the unico candidate. In this case one retires and it leaves us in the same one > &gt; &gt; &gt; situation. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Can sound ridiculo somewhat, but it is the option that we have left of > &gt; &gt; &gt; Agreement > &gt; &gt; a > &gt; &gt; &gt; the Rules of Procedure. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Greetings, > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; The 06/04/11, Jose Ovid Salgueiro<salgueiro.jo at gmail.com>  he wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; seems unusual to Me that it must foll!
 ow a voting with a single one > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; candidate. He is totally ridiculous and this discredits to ours > &gt; &gt; &gt; institution. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Entiendo that it is not possible to be sanctioned to Antonioto retire once > &gt; &gt; &gt; begun > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the voting process since the possible sanction was not > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; established in previous form, but I believe that ofthis experience > must > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to learn and to take > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; corrective necessary so that this situation does not become a > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to present/display. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; We must incorporate an exemplary sanction in our statutes. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the possible sanction could not be but that moral. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In addition to the time of the members of the LACRALO to have to avoid > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; votes in a selection of a single candidate, has be!
 en incurred expenses > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; when organizing > &!
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 &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; voting process that ends up being unnecessary. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; JOS > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; original -----Mensaje > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Piazza > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, 06 of April of 2011 04:16 p.m. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; For: Spanish LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Secretary of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (English Official Version in a separated email) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear Miembros of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; As I communicated to them in the Teleconferencing of the Day of Yesterday, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &!
 gt; process > &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; voting online to choose the Secretary of LACRALO began the day > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Monday > &gt; &gt; &gt; 28 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of March of 2011 with 2 candidates: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * the acual secretary, Dev Anand Teelucksingh de Trinidad and Tobago > &gt; &gt; &gt; Computer > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Society (TTCS) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; * Antonio Medina Gomez of Colombian Association of Users of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Internet (ACUI)i > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; day 23 of March of 2011, Antonio Medina Gomez accepted its nomination > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - autonominación- and day 31 of March notified theretirement of his > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; candidacy for Secretary of LACRALO, leaving only a candidate > stops > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the position of Secretary of LACRALO. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since the vote already had begun, an overhaul of documents > of > &!
 gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; LACRALO organization was made to determine !
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more > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; appropriate > &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to continue with the following steps: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (https://community.icann.org/x/Oo0i) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; In the interest to maintain the integrity of this election process, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the selection of the Secretary will continue. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since there is sólamente a candidate, the voters can choose between > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; that only candidate: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; - Dev Anand Teelucksingh from Trinidad de Tobago Computer Society > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (TTCS) > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Or by the abstention. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since LACRALO is taking ahead a General Assembly Virtual > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for this selection (meaning that all 3ÃLSs in LACRALO > is > &gt; &gt; &gt; present > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and voting), by Rule 12,2 and 19 of the !
 Rules of Procedure of > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; LACRALO, at least 19 ALSes MUST vote by the only candidate stops > that > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the results can be mentioned (ALSs that vote by abstention > will be > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; considered for this respect as if they had not voted). > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since there were deliberations to make this decision, the date > limit > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; selection for the Secretary of LACRALO has been extended to Tuesday 12 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; of April 2011 to the 23:59 emitted UTC and the 7 votes will be erased > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; until the moment, being sent again the credentials to > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; delegated of each > &gt; &gt; &gt; ALS > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; so that they emit his vote again. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Warm Greetings, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Andrés Piazza > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; President of LACRALO > &gt; !
 &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -- > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; !
 * André
s Piazza * > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; -- > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent from my movable device > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Andrés Piazza * > &gt; &gt; &gt; www.andrespiazza.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; ____________!
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