[lac-discuss-en] HEAD OF CATTLE: Matrix FODA

fatimacambronero at gmail.com fatimacambronero at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 14:55:28 UTC 2011


[[--Translated text (es -> en)--]]


Subject: Re: HEAD OF CATTLE: Matrix FODA
From: fatimacambronero at gmail.com

Andrés, all, 
 
We were yesterday working enough time in this subject with Sylvia, and soon 
Sergio added itself to us. 
I am in agreement with vos whereupon the contributions of Alexander were very 
interesting and also they were including in the tables that we were arming with 
Sylvia. 
 
For those who we do not have the exercise in this type of matrices FODA, us 
it was, in some contributions that were arising, complicated toidentify if 
we located it as "weaknesses" or "threats", since a same point, 
depending on the form in which is faced it (or is written up it), it can be 
located as much in one as in another table (if I am mistaken, please, 
corríjanme). 
Like for example, it happens in the point that indicates Alexander like "weakness" 
on "the lack of mechanisms of transparency and surrender of accounts in and 
between the organizations it is another weakness that threatens the effectiveness and 
viability of model AT-Large ", where vos you raise if it couldnot be seen 
as a "threat". 
With the arguments that Alexander gave, to me personally I it had leftclear 
that well it was located like "weakness", but now that I read yours, 
also it seems to me that the distrust generated by that situation in 
AT-Large, can be seen as "it threatens". 
This is only my personal opinion, that me surje after reading them to you. 
 
These planteos, on in what place of the table to locate them, we had them with 
Sylvia in several points that arose. 
It seems to me interesting that we have these debates between us, because us 
it allows to know and to know how us where to focus us to continue working, in addition 
of being able to take advantage of the positive which we have like THIN and to remove its fruits to him. 
 
Still we have time to follow including ideas that are arising. 
Sylvia is translating the contributions that already we have, to the English. So 
let us continue thinking:) 
 
Warm greetings, 
 
Fatima Cambronero 
 
 
 
 
 
The 15 of February of 2011 09:41, <cveraq at gmail.com> it wrote: 
> Thanks Sergio: > > the estrategico: Without a doubt it is the existence of opportunities to occupy > positions of the type staff, positions of estrategica influence, positions > directors, etc. > > the operative thing: The processes to promote the maximum participation in > aids or mechanisms of designation must stay, having to improve > substantially the procedures that include profiles, orientacion, > is present at and participation, representaciòn, better options for new > you lead, less or no re-election, less or no multiple representation > in same or the different organisms, etc. > > podria to normar q Well nobody can hold two regional directive positions > or international for example and q nobody can be reelecto tothe same one > organism by but of two periods in the same one or different positions. > > gobernanza characterizes by the horizontalidad and alternabilidad but in > this means to some colleagues, surely by its meritos, we have seen them > too much and in!
  too many positions or representations reducing opportunities > to the rest, that therefore jamas podran to have opportunityto acquire > knowledge and experience practices the q leaves us in I circulate vicious > permanent. It is to say podra not to hold positions by q does not have experience but > podra not to have experience by q does not have option to hold positions... > > > Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry&reg; de Porta > > -----Original Message > From: presidency Argentina Internaut <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:27:13 > To: <cveraq at gmail.com> > Reply-To: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > Cc: <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Matrix FODA > > Carlos Thanks for your contributions! we are raising yours (and doing > translation of the same one since there is to send it in ingles) and we needed > that you help us with "opportunity" you will be able to reformulate that item so th!
 at > can be shaped your idea? since it does not stay to us abs!
 olutely 
clear as > to put it and we want to be faithful to your glance, you would put it in opportunities > strategic or in operational opportunities? We waited for your quick one > answer. > warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > > > the 15/02/2011 08:37 a.m., cveraq at gmail.com wrote: > &gt; Considero a weakness the multiple personal representations in > diverse spaces of decision. Many colleagues assume diverse positions > directors, numerous and interminable re-elections and positions in > organizations with reaches that podrian to be incompatible and even > overlapped in its actions, > &gt; > &gt; the opportunity is the great capaci!
 ty that we must to regulate > ocupacion of positions directivosa, to avoid to maximo the re-elections for q > mayoria can become familiar with practices it of Internet government and > its institutions and with the real exercise of decision positions. > &gt; > &gt; a strength the capacity of the members institutional and personally > to assume any roll. I differ strongly of those who request experience > and requirements to assume positions that single make and arbitrary his discretionary > ocupacion. The pertinent thing is q any q assumes a position receives one > induction on same and a transference of that precedio and of > staff. > &gt; > &gt; an important threat comes from the organizations and people q have > monopolized positions and that tried to put "requirements" to make difficult > access to spaces of decision on the part of third then thatmined > institucionalidad, debilitated it and ended up making unusable it. > &gt; > &gt; Carlos Side > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; Mes!
 sage sent from my terminal BlackBerry&reg; de Porta > &gt; > &!
 gt; ----
-Original Message > &gt; From: presidency Argentina Internaut<presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > &gt; Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:04:17 > &gt; To:<lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; Reply-To: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Matrix FODA > &gt; > &gt; Andres, the contributed thing by Alexander has been incorporated in the day of yesterday > &gt; at night to matrix FODA, next to the contributions of other companions > &gt; of the region which there are been working in it, I suggest who > &gt; wishes to make their aggregates do it in these days, since it was given > &gt; quickly the first one conforms we were committed to do it. > &gt; warm Greetings > &gt; > &gt; * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Association > &gt; Argentina de Usuarios de Internet<http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > &gt; Latin American Federation of Users of In!
 ternet > &gt; <http://www.fuilain.org>LACRALO - ALAC Member facebook:salinasporto > &gt; twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... > &gt; Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 * > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; the 15/02/2011 07:36 a.m., Andrés Piazza wrote: > &gt; &gt; Considered: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Without damage of which I will do my contributions in individual and coverall knowing > that > &gt; &gt; this will be debated Tomorrow (Latin American Teleconferencing), Happened > Tomorrow > &gt; &gt; (Teleconferencing of the Caribbean) and in the Monthly one, I want to do echo to me of > &gt; &gt; outstanding by Alexander. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Is a subject of great importance, in my opinion, the one of Matrix FODA. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; 1. In the listings of weaknesses of the three tables that appear in > &gt; &gt; &gt; document, we must include the lack of sufficient competitions and > &gt; &gt; &gt; updated. > &gt; &gt!
 ; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sufficient: technical, legal, social a!
 nd polit
ical knowledge of all > > &gt; &gt; &gt; subjects that are in discussion and projected for discussion in ICANN. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; recent Examples with which LACRALO can illustrate this subject: > names of > &gt; &gt; &gt; dominion of a single character in IDNs, policy for IPv6, policy stops > > &gt; &gt; &gt; "pool" remaining of IPv4 directions by return of the RIRs. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Updated: it speaks by itself. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Evidently I must agree, not only in the concepts, but in > ciudadosa > &gt; &gt; forms to express them, that had Alexander. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; But also would add in the strengths the advance in Capacity Building > that > &gt; &gt; has had in this short period of existence of the Thin ones. Watching > glass > &gt; &gt; average plenty. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. Another weakness that must be including, and that represents a risk > elevated > &gt; &gt; &gt; to the via!
 bility of model AT-Large, is the excessive concentration of > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Thin and ALS in organization subjects and procedure, including > access > &gt; &gt; &gt; a > &gt; &gt; &gt; bottoms for trips and meetings. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; In the measurement in which this concentration in onedamage is perceived > &gt; &gt; &gt; discussion focused to the subjects nouns, that produce contributions > to > &gt; &gt; &gt; development of important and opportune policies, the critics of the type > of > &gt; &gt; &gt; "is only dedicated to fight to each other" or "they only take care to obtain > resources > &gt; &gt; &gt; for himself "will debilitate the model. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; I cannot make another thing that to agree. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; 3. The lack of transparency mechanisms and surrender of accounts in > and > &gt; &gt; &gt; between > &gt; &gt; &gt; the organizations is another weakness that threatens the effectiven!
 ess and > &gt; &gt; &gt; viability of model AT-Large. > &gt; &!
 gt; &gt;
 > &gt; &gt; &gt; Tuve opportunity to speak on this in the inaugural speech of > &gt; &gt; &gt; "showcase" of Cartagena and I return to do it: in themeasurement in which there is more > &gt; &gt; &gt; money in game, for example with new gTLDs, new opportunities of > to use > &gt; &gt; &gt; ccTLDs as if they were generic, and other changes in the market of > names > &gt; &gt; &gt; of > &gt; &gt; &gt; dominion, the temptation to apply the capacities of aALS or everything > one > &gt; &gt; &gt; THIN in support of a model or policy that favors to asingle supplier > or > &gt; &gt; &gt; group of suppliers grows. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Is indispensable that the bottoms and inclinations orobligations of > ALS > &gt; &gt; &gt; is known and susceptible open analysis. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; the opposite will take to an increasing distrust thatas well > will produce > &gt; &gt; &gt; incentives to disqualify or to diminish the contributions of the AT > Large. > &gt;!
  &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Aclaro in case there are doubts that when saying here"weakness", use the term > like > &gt; &gt; &gt; in the exercises of strategic planning, like a characteristic > &gt; &gt; &gt; commits > &gt; &gt; &gt; (the external ones are "threats") of the organizationwho makes difficult to reach > > &gt; &gt; &gt; objective. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; and use "lacks" not like an absolute one, but like half (or more, or less) > &gt; &gt; &gt; empty > &gt; &gt; &gt; of the glass. That is to say, I do not say that "lackof capacity" means that > we have > &gt; &gt; &gt; zero capacity, but that the capacity that lacks is a weakness, by > &gt; &gt; &gt; example. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Could this being a "threat" but that a "weakness" Alexander? Or it has > something > &gt; &gt; that I did not understand well. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; I am going away to stop in a conceptual aspect, on the preparation of > &gt; &gt; First FODA. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt;!
  "Threat" is an external or possible factor whereas "Weakness"!
  > &gt; 
&gt; constitutes a real and internal element. The bottoms ofthe ALS are something, > if > &gt; &gt; well internal - not of LACRALO but each organization who potentially > can > &gt; &gt; to attempt against our credibility. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Greetings, > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Andrés > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Carlos Aguirre: I hope you see reflected here in objective way some > of > &gt; &gt; &gt; the subjects that you and I in this list days ago discussed, and to > that > &gt; &gt; &gt; talked about Andrés Piazza in that same interchange.Hopefully we pruned > to advance in > &gt; &gt; &gt; this important process. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Sergio Salinas and Sylvia Herlein Leite: who directs this debate and is > &gt; &gt; &gt; in charge to lead and to transmit its results to the instances > &gt; &gt; &gt; following? We must support them and it will be easierin the measurement in that > his > &gt; &gt; &gt; conduction is manifest. I see so far sho!
 ws the one ofSylvia. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Warm greetings. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. . > &gt; &gt; &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org. . . . . . . . . . >. > &gt; &gt; &gt;. > &gt; &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . !
 . . . . > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; On !
 the Sat,
 12 Feb 2011 sylvia at prontocl.com.br wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: The Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:01:18 -0200 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: sylvia at prontocl.com.br > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' LACRALO Español'" > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] First FODA > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Dear LACRALO companions; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the next Thursday in our monthly teleconferencing we will be > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; presenting/displaying the commentaries on the matrix FODA that is being > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; armed by the work group C. The work group has askedfor a > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the 5 THIN its contributions and commentaries. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Vean in: > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; < > https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/7635421/LACRALO_inpu > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; t_into > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _ WT_C_SWOT_analyses_SP.pdf &gt; !
 > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/7635421/LACRALO_input > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _ into _ > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; WT_C_SWOT_analyses_SP.pdf > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the version in Spanish on same and envíenme its commentaries even > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 17 Thursday 17 to UTC so that it can incorporate them. > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Greetings to all, > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sylvia > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sylvia Herlein Leite > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; LACRALO-ALAC Member > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Latin America& Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; sylvia at internautabrasil.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________!
 ________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-!
 is maili
ng list > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > &gt; > &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman!
 /listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > http://www.lacralo.org > 
 
 
 
--  
* Fatima Cambronero * 
  Lawyer-Argentina 
President Ageia Densi 
http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ 
_______________________________________________ 




[[--Original text (es)
http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/cc800bc4b5.html
--]]




More information about the lac-discuss-en mailing list