[lac-discuss-en] On Cartagena
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Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] On Cartagena
Dear Miembros of LACRALO
As it is custom, the President of ALAC does one presentación as a
summary, of the results of meeting. For the case of Cartagena,trató
of I complete report of Cheryl Langdon Orr.
https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Chair%27s+Report+-+Cartagena+Meeting+-+10.12.2010
This time I have counted with the invaluable aid of Javier Pallero, jóven
member of AGEIA DENSI, in versión espaÃ�±ola of the document that can
to aceder aquÃÂÃÂ:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=ÃÂsqw8yKIO_9dmDETwtdAnOAm6KlRo4bigfrPM208eWfUrlGsVBUHpHWdU7rg&hl=en&authkey=CP_Ih9AM
Warm Greetings,
Andrés Piazza
President of LACRALO
AT-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC)
(Advisory© ComitÃÂ of AT-Large)
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imagen.]ALAC Chair (President) - Cheryl Langdon-Orr
*
10 of December of 2010
* Report of the President of the Comité Aesor of AT-Large before 39**ÃÂú
** Encuentro
of ICANN in Cartagena, Colombia. *
* Activities of AT-Large in 39**ÃÂú ** ICANN encounter in Cartagena,
Colombia. *
During 39ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN that took place between the 5 and the 10 of
EnCartagena December, Colombia, the community of AT-Large was
represented by a total of 28 members of the five regions of AT-Large.
Between éstos representatives include members of the Advisory© Comitàof
AT-Large, civil employees of five reionales organizations AT-Large
(Thin), representatives of structures AT-Large (ALSes), coordinators of
he connects AT-Large, delegates of AT-Large before the Comité de Nominaciones
(NomCom), and representatives of community AT-Large.
The following formal meetings of AT-Large were carried out during
39ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN in Cartagena:
÷ One sesiÃÂón of work of complete day of ALAC and Regional Leadership
÷ One reuniÃÂón of the Equipment To de Trabajo in improvements ofAT-Large
÷ A monthly encounter of NARALO
÷ One exhibiciÃÂón of LACRALO
÷ One reuniÃÂón monthly of APRALO
÷ One sesiÃÂón of PolÃÂÃÂticas of ALACâà"Part 1
÷ One sesiÃÂón of PolÃÂÃÂticas of ALACâà"Part 2
÷ One reuniÃÂón monthly of AFRALO
÷ One reuniÃÂón monthly of LACRALO
÷ One reuniÃÂón of Equipment B of Work in improvements of AT-Large
÷ A ReuniÃÂón of ALAC and Regional Leadership for the developmentof
budget FY 12
÷ One reuniÃÂón of ALAC with members of the Board of ICANN
÷ One reuniÃÂón of AT-Large with Recorders
÷ One reuniÃÂón of corolario of ALAC and Regional Leadership
÷ One reuniÃÂón of regional secretaryships of AT-Large
÷ One reuniÃÂón by call of the president.
÷ One reuniÃÂón of the Executive© Comitàof ALAC
AT-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC)
* ALAC Chair - Cheryl Langdon-Orr *
ExhibiciÃÂón of LACRALO destacÃÂó to the vibrant and diverse OrganizaciÃÂón
Regional of AT-Large for rich©LatinoamÃÂ and the Caribbean. The Dr Alexander
Pisanty presentÃÂó a speech of opening and but of 12 Structures AT-Large
they made a review of its activities and profits.
AT-Large juice a fundamental roll in organizaciÃÂón and unfolding of
two meetings between circumscriptions (constituencies):
÷ Joint ReuniÃÂón AFRALO/AfrICANN
÷ PromociÃÂón of the Competition, Loyalty to Consumidor and ElecciÃÂón of
Consumer.
Also, the members of AT-Large that participated in 39ÃÂú Encuentro of
ICANN participated actively in meetings that were not of AT-Large. And
they prepared reports of those sessions, that provided with resÃÂúmenes of
sessions asÃÂàas también emphasized questions of importance for
community AT-Large
Between the many related subjects to polÃÂÃÂticas and discussedprocedures
during its meetings, gustarÃÂÃÂa are several to ALAC to bring to him to colaciÃÂón:
÷ * AsunciÃÂón of a director of the Board of ICANN chosen by thecommunity
AT-Large * â à"Sebastien Bachollet, the Director of the Board of ICANN
selected by the community AT-Large, asumiràafter conclusiÃÂónof
General Annual encounter of ICANN the 10 of December of 2010.ÃÂÃÂste is
first Director of the Board selected by community AT-Large tooccupy
a place in board from aÃÂño 2000. Like president of ALAC, noté that
from ALAC and AT-Large (RALOs and ALSes) we have indeed been
involved and contributing éste process. También me gustarÃÂÃÂa to congratulate a
the original postulantes of the DeclaraciÃÂón de Interés and to the final list
of candidates involved in éste fixed for AT-Large and ALAC, and sincerely
to thank for to all by its will on watch in ICANN and ours tothem
community, and at the same time to offer our but sincere conmiseraciÃÂón a
Alan Greenberg and our congratulations to Sébastien Bachollet.
÷ * DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the GuÃÂÃÂa proposal for the Final Aspiring * â à"
During reuniÃÂón of discusiÃÂón of polÃÂÃÂticas (part 2) of ALAC Tuesday, 7
of December, ALAC ratificÃÂó the DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the proposal âÃÂÃÂGuÃÂÃÂa
for the FinalâÃÂàAspiring with a vote from 12 to 0. DeclaraciÃÂón seràsent
to the consultation to the pÃÂúblico at the moment opened.
÷ * DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the proposal of reform of statutes to
terms of transiciÃÂón for members of Board.*âà"ALAC votÃÂó 12:0 in favor of
to ratify declaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the proposal of reform of
statutes in the referred thing on credit of transiciÃÂón for members of the Board.
* AprobaciÃÂón of the first draft of statute 1,0 of DSSR * â à"During reuniÃÂón
of discusiÃÂón of polÃÂÃÂticas (parte2) of carried out ALAC Tuesday, 7 of
December, ALAC aprobÃÂó the First draft of statute 1,0 of DSSRwith a vote
from 10 to favor and one abstenciÃÂón.
÷ * DeclaraciÃÂón of Cartagena of the African community of ICANNto near
support to new gTLD*âà"ALAC wishes to make one menciÃÂón special of, and to give
but the high congratulaciones to the preparatory work and declaraciÃÂón of
African community of ICANN (AfriICANN and AFRALO), relative to the support stops
the new aspirings for gTLD. (and added to my report for its reference
and atenciÃÂón).
÷ * DeclaraciÃÂón of Cartagena of the African community of ICANNon the support
to participaciÃÂón African in the process of development of polÃÂÃÂticas in
ICANN*âÃÂ"alac también praises the African community of ICANN by
development and adopciÃÂón of declaraciÃÂón of Cartagena that it looks for to improve
quality of participaciÃÂón of ésta vibrant community to través of
implementaciÃÂón of one campaÃÂña of concientizaciÃÂón at local levels and
regional, that serviràlike a first passage towards a programof creaciÃÂón of
capacities for the African community of ICANN.
÷ * Updates of Leadership in ALAC and AT-Large*âà"the Annual encounter
General of 2010 marks a change in the leadership within ALAC and
regions of AT-Large.
ALAC wishes to recognize the valuable contributions of the following members
of regional ALAC and civil employees who estarÃÂ n leaving itspositions of
leadership towards the end of reuniÃÂón of Cartagena.
or Carlos representing Aguirre â à"in elect ALAC by LACRALO (December2006
â à"December 2010)
or Sebastien Bachollet â à"Vice-president of Executive© ComitàALAC (October
2009 â à"December 2010) and representative in ALAC of EURALO(March 2007 â ÃÂ"
December 2010)
or Beau Brendler â à"representing in ALAC chosen by NARALO (November 2007 â ÃÂ"
December 2010)
or Hawa Diakite â à"representing in ALAC chosen by AFRALO (March 2007 â ÃÂ"
December 2010)
or Alan Greenberg â à"Vice-president of Executive© ComitàALAC (November 2008
â à"December 2010) and elect representative of ALAC by NomCom ALAC by
NARALO (November 2007 â à"December 2010
or Didier Kasole â à"Secretary of AFRALO (March 2007âÃÂ" December 2010)
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or Dave African Kissoondoyal â à"Representing of the Executive© Comitàof ALAC
(November 2008 â à"December 2010)
or Cheryl Langdon-Orr, President of ALAC (November 2007- December 2010)
or Evan Leibovitch â à"President of NARALO (June 2007 - December 2010)
or Adam representing Peake â à"of elect ALAC by NomCom ALAC by EURALO
(November 2008 â à"December 2010)
or Patrick Vande Walle â à"representing in ALAC chosen by EURALO
(November 2008 â à"December 2010)
or Dr V. C. Vivekanandan â à"Representing in ALAC chosen by APRALO
(November 2008 â à"December 2010)
ALAC estÃÂ pleased to announce the incoming Civil employees ofALAC,
Representatives, Regional Coordinators of Connection, and Civil employees of
AT-Large.
or Civil employees of ALAC:
President: Dr Olivier Crepin-Leblond (EURALO)
Vice-president: Cheryl Langdon-Orr (APRALO)
Vice-president: Evan Leibovitch (NARALO)
Relator: Carlton Samuels (LACRALO)
Representative of the African RegiÃÂón: Tijani Horseradish tree Jemaa (AFRALO)
or Representatives ALAC:
Tijani Horseradish tree Jemaa (AFRALO)
Edmon Chung (APRALO)
Sandra Hoferichter (EURALO)
Sergio Saline I carry (LACRALO)
Jean-Jacques Subrenat (EURALO)
Evan Leibovitch (NARALO)
Marc Rotenberg (NARALO â à"NomCom selectee)
or Coordinators of Connection ALAC
Connection ccNSO: Cheryl Langdon-Orr (APRALO)
It connects GNSO: Alan Greenberg (NARALO)
He connects IDN: Edmon Chung (APRALO)
It connects NCSG: Beau Brendler (NARALO)
It connects SSR: Patrick Vande Walle (EURALO)
or Regional Civil employees
Aziz Hilali (Secretary AFRALO)
Beau Brendler (President NARALO)
Eric Brunner-Williams (Representing ALS nonaffiliated, NARALO. ÃÂÃÂste is
first appointment of AT-Large to lÃÂÃÂder regional, like memberroll
individual)
* Activities of AT-Large from 38**ÃÂú ** Encuentro of ICANN inBrussels *
The community of AT-Large, consisting of ALAC, five Thin and 129 Structures
AT-Large continuÃÂó with its development of polÃÂÃÂticas and activities of reach and
difusiÃÂón between 38ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN happened in Brussels, Belgica in
June of 2010 and 39ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN carried out in Cartagena,
Colombia in December of 2010.
During éste perÃÂÃÂodo, ALAC remitiÃÂó 8 declarations of polÃÂÃÂticas to the Board.
The subjects of the declarations of polÃÂÃÂticas of ALAC were the following ones:
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the report of the Communitarian Work group a
near implementaciÃÂón of the RecomendaciÃÂón NÃÂúmero 6 of new gTLD of
GNSO
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the initial report in Vertical IntegraciÃÂón.
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the first draft of GuÃÂÃÂa de Aspirantes v4
÷ Answer of the CEO of ICANN to the joint letter of presidents of the GNSO,
ccNSO and ALAC on the establishment proposed by ICANN of a DNS-CERT
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on Reporte Inical of the RecuperaciÃÂón de Nombres
of Dominio Post-ExpiraciÃÂón (PEDNR)
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on Work groups in Processes of Development of
PolÃÂÃÂticas (PDP)
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on the polÃÂÃÂtica of ICANN trips
÷ DeclaraciÃÂón of ALAC on subsecciÃÂón of RAA 3.7.7.3
Members of ALAC, the Regions and our ALSes have become jumbled
directly with the development of polÃÂÃÂticas and produced processes of ICANN
within or with other parts of ICANN. ÃÂÃÂstos include, without limiting itself:
÷ Two (2) Members in the Work group of RevisiÃÂón in Regions
GeogrÃÂ ficas
÷ Four (4) Members in the RAA Sub Team A: Group of First draft of
rights of the Registrantes
÷ Three (3) Members in the RAA Sub Team B: Group of Additional Reforms
÷ Three (3) Members in the Work group of RecuperaciÃÂón de Nombres of
Dominion post ExpiraciÃÂón
÷ (1) a Member in the Comité de DirecciÃÂón de Procedimientos de PolÃÂÃÂticas
(PPSC) Equipment of Procedures of Development of PolÃÂÃÂticas (PDP)
÷ A member in the Comité de DirecciÃÂón de Procedimientos de PolÃÂÃÂticas (PPSC)
Equipment Group of Trabajo (WG)
÷ Two (2) Members in the Work group 1 of ccNSO IDN PDP
÷ Two (2) Members in the Work group of PolÃÂÃÂticas for the RegistraciÃÂón
of Abuses
÷ Six (6) Members in the Work group of Support to Aspirings of New
gTLD SO/AC
Like average increasing knowledge and capacities within
community AT-Large, to become jumbled indeed in the procdimiento of
development of polÃÂÃÂticas of ICANN, eight calls to community AT-Large
they had between 38ÃÂú and 39ÃÂú ReuniÃÂón of ICANN. ÃÂÃÂstos called to
community was:
÷ Call to the Community on the Final GuÃÂÃÂa for the Aspiring
÷ Call to the Community with Candidates to the Board of AT-Large
÷ Call to the Community on Rec 6
÷ Call to the Community on SSR
÷ Call to the Community: Intermediate training in Wiki de Confluencia
÷ Call to the Community: Training for nascent in Wiki of
Confluence
÷ Call to the Community on support to trips of AT-Large
÷ Call to the Community On Initial Reporte in Vertical IntegraciÃÂón
5 Regional Organizations AT-Large (Thin) have exceptionally been
occupied between 38ÃÂú and 39ÃÂú ICANN encounter. Its reports of activities
estÃÂ n available in:
÷ AFRALO
÷ APRALO
÷ EURALO
÷ LACRALO
÷ NARALO
During éste period, five new structures AT-Large (ALSes) have been
credited and to two organizations estÃÂ n, at the moment, in the stage of
aspirings. At the moment ALSes are 129. The ALSes credited is:
÷ Information Policy Analytical Center (IPAC) (APRALO)
÷ ISOC PerÃÂú (LACRALO)
÷ tangle - Network the International of DiseÃÂño [ pdf, 160 KB ](LACRALO)
÷ Association of Information Technology Law (LACRALO)
÷ Colorado Isoc (NARALO)
The organizations under revisiÃÂón are:
÷ Binary Egypt (AFRALO)
÷ Forum DES Cadres Scientifiques pour him Développement (FORCUS) (AFRALO)
* Improvements in AT-Large **âÃÂ"** Been present and PrÃÂóximosSteps *
>From 38ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN in Brussels, bases and progresses
significant they have been obtained in implementaciÃÂón of theimprovements of
AT-Large. ÃÂÃÂste progress is the result of the work of the four Groups of
work in Improvements (WTs) in colaboraciÃÂón with the Project manager
of Improvements of AT-Large and other members of the staff.
The WTs in Improvements of AT-Large every two weeks are reÃÂúnen. Thereis each one him
porciÃÂón of related recommendations has assigned implementaciÃÂón of one
that they began with Final Reporte of the Work group of RevisiÃÂón in
Improvements of ALAC (Feb 2009). ÃÂÃÂstas recommendations are divided in tasks
listed cticas pràin the Summary of Simplified ImplementaciÃÂón de Mejoras
of AT-Large.
The table but down summarizes the work done to date in the respective a
imlpementaciÃÂón of the 13 recommendations for improvements inAT-Large. To dÃÂÃÂa
of today, the considered date to execute those recommendations aÃÂún no
complete it is March of 2011.
The landmarks obtained by each WT until now in ste reaches©ÃÂ progress level
estàn listed down, también with the prÃÂóximos stepsthat each WT
estÃÂ planning and a Link to its main spaces of confluence. (ÃÂÃÂsta
informaciÃÂón también estàavailable in ALAC/At-LargeImprovements
Implementation Update, 5 DEC 2010).
* WT in Improvements of AT-Large To on the process of continuaciÃÂón ALAC/At - * *
Large ** *
÷ Landmarks
or Changes approved in the statutes relative to the Director of ICANN
selected by AT-Large (to see excellent Statutes of ICANN);
or ElaboraciÃÂón of first draft of reviiones to artÃÂÃÂculo XI, 2(4)(a) of
Statutes, main artÃÂÃÂculo of the statutes of AT-Large;
or other necessary statutory changes were analyzed incorporating some
to the WT AâÙs suggested ALAC public comment on ATRTdraft recommendations; and
or processes were defined (resoluciÃÂón seràsuggested by the Director
selected by AT-Large) for declaraciÃÂón of the Board recognizing
Rec. 10.
÷ PrÃÂóximos Steps
or To define complete processes and to establish dates, in colaboraciÃÂón with
legal department of ICANN, for the statutory reforms that lack.
÷ The work of the WT can be in the Space of work of WT A.
* WT In improvements of AT-Large B on participaciÃÂón of ALS *
÷ Landmarks
or Soundings of ALS were used to identify obstÃÂ excellent asses to
participaciÃÂón of ALS (such as the flow of informaciÃÂón);
or tools of comunicaciÃÂón/colaboraciÃÂón were identified to be
proposals to the ALSes (including Confluence, Posterous, and iEtherPad);
or iniciÃÂó discusiÃÂón on a gina Pàof Confluence for each ALS is stopped
outreach/âÃÂÃÂinreach, âÃÂàeducaciÃÂón, and involvement (including interchange
bidirectional of informaciÃÂón);
or a new Kit de Principiante for Representatives of ALS soon estarÃÂ
available;
or Series of completed THIN pamphlets AT-Large and;
or external educative groups identified themselves with which to be associated, like
DiploFoundation;
÷ PrÃÂóximos Steps
or To cause that the educative material and of involvement isbut fÃÂ cil of
to find.
or To create a package of instructions for ALSes on tools of
colaboraciÃÂón and comunicaciÃÂón.; and
or To evaluate new tools of traducciÃÂón.
÷ The main work of the WT can be in Space of Work of
WT B.
* WT in Improvements of AT-Large C, on processes of planificaciÃÂón in
ALAC/At-Large *
÷ Landmarks
or Anàlisis SWOT completed on processes of planificaciÃÂón budgetary,
estratégica and operational of ALAC/At-Large;
or regular Encounter, every two weeks, of Subcomité ALAC of Budget
and Finances (like part of WT C);
or participÃÂó in (and contributions were made during) RevisiÃÂón ICANN of
Gico Estratéplanning with ALAC (9 Nov 2010), Plan ofOperations FY12 and
Beginning of the Budget - ALAC (23 Nov 2010), and Encounter of
Budgetary development FY12 of ALAC and Regional Leadership (8Dic 2010); and
or With respect to the Lodging in the Encounter of ICANN (task 6,2): DiscusiÃÂón
of the President of ALAC on questions of lodging with
CircunscripciÃÂón Trips and CFO; new GuÃÂÃÂa Norms on support intrips.
÷ PrÃÂóximos Steps
or Thin proveeràn support in Anàlisis SWOT of the WTs on planificaciÃÂón
budgetary, estratégica and operational of ALAC/At-Large; and
or WT necessary determinaràn© quàinformaciÃÂón on budget is needed.
÷ The Main Work of the WT can be in the Space of Work
WT C.
* WT in Improvements of AT-Large D, on asesotrÃÂÃÂa developing of polÃÂÃÂticas of
ALAC/At-Large *
÷ Landmarks
or Desarrrollo of the New Flow chart PAD of ALAC/At-Large (tosee 5), that
it includes mechanisms stops:
àç Aumentar the accessibility before perÃÂÃÂodo of pÃÂúblico commentary (notes
of advance, pre-publications, translations; to see Activitiesof AT-Large/ALAC
before publicaciÃÂón of polÃÂÃÂticas and flow charts Before
polÃÂÃÂticas estén available for commentaries;
àç Requerir extensiÃÂón of perÃÂÃÂodo of pÃÂúblico commentary to 45 dÃÂÃÂas(to see
organizational chart Rec 8_ALAC);
àç To make sure that UNDER they require opiniÃÂón of ALAC (to see New Rough draft
GNSO PDP); and
àç Garantizar that UNDER, AC and the Board provide to ALAC of support.
or GuÃÂÃÂa for Nascent to the Names of Dominion (initially
document of AT-Large) presented/displayed during 39ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN.
or GuÃÂÃÂa for Nascent on IPv4 and IPv6 appearing in the 40 Encuentro
of ICANN.
or Meetings relative to the Consumer in Cartagena (Promotion of
Competition, Confianza and ElecciÃÂón of the Consumer); and
or ParticipaciÃÂón of representatives of AT-Large in several panels who reach
to the consumers.
÷ PrÃÂóximos Steps
or ALAC propondrÃÂ new measures relative to polÃÂÃÂticas to other ACs and SOs (
work with ccNSO and I ROAST habrÃÂ to begin)
or communitarian RevisiÃÂón, PromociÃÂón on the part of ALAC, and aprobaciÃÂón of the Board
of the new PAD of ALAC/At-Large proposed by the WT; and
or the planned WT completaràactualizaciÃÂón and consolidaciÃÂón of documents
with reach for the consumer.
÷ The main work of the WT can be in the Space of work
of WT D.
* A Note of Gratefulness *
The members of Regional ALAC and LÃÂÃÂderes wanted to extend their sincere one
gratefulness, esteem and recognition to the ICANN staff that supports to them;
Heidi Ulrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White and
Marilyn Vernon, to provide with aid the 24 hours of dÃÂÃÂa, the7 dÃÂÃÂas of
week to all the sections of community AT-Large. También quisiébranches
to be thankful to the members of the staff of ICANN that offered exceptional
press conferences and became jumbled in stimulating discussions with
we during 39ÃÂú Encuentro of ICANN. Finally, quisiébranches
to thank for the staff of Encuentro of ICANN that has worked untiringly
in order to make sure that our conference halls and the lodging was
but advisable possible during ours estadÃÂÃÂa in Cartagena.
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* Andrés Piazza *
www.andrespiazza.com
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